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Old 04-21-2013, 08:39 AM   #1
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Tube screamer alternative?

Yeah yeah I'm sure your all sick of answering it but help a brother out! I'm not paying 200 plus for a tube screamer simple as that, I want the srv tone, I have the strat, I have a hot rod deluxe III, (jeez 3 grande worth of gear get the pedal you stingy ****) but I need a pedal, I'm tossing up between a:
Behringer vintage tube overdrive
Digitech bad monkey
Digitech screaming blues

All inbetween 50 to 80 dollars au

Suggestions? Any other pedals for this price you can suggest?

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Old 04-21-2013, 08:52 AM   #2
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Bad Monkey is definetly a safe choice. It is based on Tubescreamer, but unlike TS it has 2-way EQ instead of tone knob, giving it more room for finetuning your sound.
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Old 04-21-2013, 08:56 AM   #3
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if someone is charging you 200 dollars for a tubescreamer then you probably should never shop from them ever again...tubescreamers can be had on the cheap new or used. But out of your choices I too would probably go with the BadMonkey
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Old 04-21-2013, 09:01 AM   #4
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Joyo Vintage Overdrive is a TS-9 clone and pretty good (~$50ish)
GFS Greenie Classic is a modified TS clone (~50)

I have the GFS Greenie and the Digitech Bad monkey, and I like both, but the Bad Monkey has more tonal control. I have found that the GFS Greenie will work better with some of my amps.
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Old 04-21-2013, 09:03 AM   #5
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Voodoo Labs Sparkle Drive. Like the blend control lots. Not sure of the price tho.
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Old 04-21-2013, 10:17 AM   #6
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Behringer Tube Preamp! I have one, a MIC200 , which cost about $40, and it's a godsend. I don't know about the model you mentioned but mine gives that tube crunch sound at any volume. I'd advise anyone to get one before they buy any overdrive pedals. The things are killer. Even my solid state Crate Powerblock sounds fantastic with one. I recently traded off my Bad Monkey. I fiddled with it for a while and then it sat unused for a looong time. It didn't do it for me at all. I only use the MIC200 in front of my amp, nothing else, and couldn't be happier.

If you're really into the SRV sound, get yourself a Twin and look at my signature file. He did that for a while.
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Old 04-21-2013, 10:24 AM   #7
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It's tough to throw a rock in a music shop and not hit seven TS clones.
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Old 04-21-2013, 12:41 PM   #8
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The Bad Monkey is more or less a TS clone with the tone control split up into two. It's good. It will let you drive your amp a little harder. The level control has a lot of range while the gain control offers low to moderate clipping with a slightly bright edge. If you only need a little extra clipping and mostly want to boost your signal, this is the pedal to go for.

The Screamin' Blues is halfway between the Bad Monkey overdrive and the Hot Head distortion. Its level control has slighlty less range than the BM but more than the HH; the gain control has more range than the BM but less than the HH. The character of the distortion is very slightly smoother, shifted down to the mids rather than the 'upper-mids' of the BM (and TS). Personally, this was my go-to overdrive pedal for several years. The level control can still double your output, more than enough to drive, and I found the distortion characteristics to be the most pleasing. It's a good option if you know for sure you want to add a little transistor clipping in addition to a big level boost.

The other thing I'd consider is the Boss SD-1. It's basically a TS with asymmetrical clipping. If anything it is a much better 'blues' overdrive than the TS ever was. It has the same basic big level, light gain and single tone control configuration as the TS.

Any of them will do what you want, just depends on how exactly you want to use 'em. Personally, I am of the mind that these are the cheapest pedals to go for and that if you go for anything much more expensive then you might as well be springing for a plain ol' Tube Screamer.
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Old 04-21-2013, 12:54 PM   #9
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^ the screamin blues seems to be a glorified blues driver/bd2.

you liked it, then? i have store credit on musicstore and they sell it (and the bad monkey) for cheap

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+1

joyo, mooer, biyang (not fussed on their reliability) etc. all do ts clones.
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Old 04-21-2013, 03:22 PM   #10
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^ the screamin blues seems to be a glorified blues driver/bd2.

you liked it, then? i have store credit on musicstore and they sell it (and the bad monkey) for cheap
Well yeah, it's basically the same thing. TS = Bad Monkey. BD-2 = Screamin' Blues. DS-1 = Hot Head. The colours rather give them away. DigiTech don't have many original ideas.

But yes, I used it as my main source of distortion for several years. I don't like have a single 'tone' knob, so the DigiTechs were always the better option, for me. The halfway OD/distortion nature of the Screamin' Blues let me do a bit more witht he one pedal than I ever could have with a plain OD or distortion.

I wouldn't say it's for everyone, but as far as your basic heavier blues tones go, I'd rather use that again than any kind of plain Tube Screamer copy. It's just a more versatile version of the Bad Monkey, really
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Old 04-21-2013, 03:28 PM   #11
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One more recommendation for the Bad Monkey, they are awesome pedals pushing well above the price range in both build quality and sound.
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Look for some stuff used. You can get good deals and get most if not all of your money back out of it if you decide you don't like it and want to sell it.
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It's tough to throw a rock in a music shop and not hit seven TS clones.


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The colors are a huge giveaway - if you find a pedal and it's some shade of green, chances are it's a TS variation.
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Old 04-21-2013, 06:26 PM   #15
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Wait a second. Somebody is using a tubescreamer for it's clipping and not as a boost? Has this ever happened before?
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I actually don't mind a ts as a standalone od for certain tones

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Well yeah, it's basically the same thing. TS = Bad Monkey. BD-2 = Screamin' Blues. DS-1 = Hot Head. The colours rather give them away. DigiTech don't have many original ideas.

But yes, I used it as my main source of distortion for several years. I don't like have a single 'tone' knob, so the DigiTechs were always the better option, for me. The halfway OD/distortion nature of the Screamin' Blues let me do a bit more witht he one pedal than I ever could have with a plain OD or distortion.

I wouldn't say it's for everyone, but as far as your basic heavier blues tones go, I'd rather use that again than any kind of plain Tube Screamer copy. It's just a more versatile version of the Bad Monkey, really


thanks i figured the hothead was maybe a ds1 but that's good to hear, too, as i'd never really looked into it much.

how are the buffers in them? build quality? the digitech stuff i've had seemed fairly solid and the buffers seem fine, but it was the dearer x-series stuff that was made in the US (i'm guessing the BM, SB and HH are made in china or something like that?)...

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Old 04-21-2013, 07:04 PM   #17
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yeah that's what i thought but i figured those cheaper ones can't be. they're going for 33 euros FFS.
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Sparkle Drive isnt too shabby, i like the blend knob feature.
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if someone is charging you 200 dollars for a tubescreamer then you probably should never shop from them ever again...

australian prices bro.
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