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Old 04-22-2013, 10:24 PM   #1
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Need amp head recommendations!!! Currently without an amp.

I have been going through the run around with guitar center. I originally went in to get a mesa dc series amp head. I played the 100 watt head they had and was kind of unimpressed, but I know that playing a 100 watt a low volumes was not the best picture. Not to mention 100 watts is way more than I need. I was pondering the dc-3, more my style. Then my ability to be patient took over and I ordered an Egnater Rebel 30, but got a call today saying that it was in worse shape than originally said so I cancelled that order. Then today I went in and came out with a Marshall DSL15H (I had a JCM 2000 DSL 100 and loved it, but it was too much and bills needed paid), which in my opinion sounded great, then got home and the footswitch didn't work. For the price, I was happy but I think that there might be a better amp out there for what I am going for.
What amp head best suits my needs?
Genre-blues, classic rock, metal (Mastodon/Baroness-Opeth), clean is good to have but not a fender clean.
Budget-up to $550 USD, do not need a high wattage amp head. Willing to go used, probably will have to be from GC.
I may just end up keeping the Marshall since most of the bands I listen to and emulate have that British-styled amp component to them.
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Old 04-22-2013, 10:27 PM   #2
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Look for a Laney LC50. Combo version of the GH50L (I think).
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Old 04-22-2013, 10:46 PM   #3
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There is a Krank 1980 Jr 20watt for $375 on www.guitarcenter.com/used

I have one and it is a truly fantastic amp and it is loud enough to jam with a band if you need to.

I have a DSL100 and I bought the 1980 for easy transport to practice. and it is built solid
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Old 04-22-2013, 10:49 PM   #4
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I second the laney. I've seen guys use them like a jazz amp. Then turn it up and bust out some metal shit.
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Old 04-22-2013, 10:56 PM   #5
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Is the laney a combo or an amp head. I need an amp head. I like the sound of the laney. Robb, never heard the Krank before. I know you recently got yours, is it in the same vein as the dsl?

I've also been looking at the jet city 50w head, it's just hard to get past how ugly they are.
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Old 04-22-2013, 10:56 PM   #6
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I'm an idiot and didn't read the title...if you want a head go for the GH50L or VH100R.
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Old 04-22-2013, 11:08 PM   #7
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Is the laney a combo or an amp head. I need an amp head. I like the sound of the laney. Robb, never heard the Krank before. I know you recently got yours, is it in the same vein as the dsl?

Yeah similar to the DSL, it has the whole Hotrod Marshall thing going on. The Cleans are surprisingly good on it also with headroom if you need it.

I think the 1980Jr is really similar to the Splawn QR that I tried . The FX loop is pretty good also and also doubles as a boost if you don't use the loop.

I play in a Prog-metal band and we do a few Mastadon/ASG type songs so I know the 1980 does those just fine. I use my DSL100 for live shows, but I have thought about trying the Krank out live (I have it on 6 for the volume at practice and it is plenty loud).
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Old 04-22-2013, 11:10 PM   #8
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No prob, just wondering. I like what I can find out about the Laneys, not to mention Mikael A. plays Laneys, or at least used to, I know they have been using some Blackstar of lately. However, once shipping and tax are involved I am well over where I want to be.
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Old 04-22-2013, 11:14 PM   #9
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The Krank really seems to have that JCM 800 feel to it. I like it, and its cheaper than the Marshall.
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The Krank really seems to have that JCM 800 feel to it. I like it, and its cheaper than the Marshall.

Yeah I tried the new DSL15 head and the 1980 is way better. And the 1980 Jr is made in the USA and $375. I got super lucky when I bought mine because they are rare used, and then the other day there was the JR and a full sized 1980.

Another cool thing is Krank list the 1980 as having 3 12ax7 preamp tubes. It also has a 12ax7 PI and a 12ax7 tube buffered FX loop, so really 5 12ax7s. It also gets its 20 watts from 2 6L6 tubes, so you get the tone of the big bottle amps which 99% of small amps are lacking
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Old 04-23-2013, 06:20 AM   #11
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I'm still on the fence. I like the idea of the Krank being cheaper and a scaled down JCM 800 with a clean channel. It is right around the wattage that would work best for me. However, knowing how I am, I hate to admit it but the name brand gets me. Something about the way a Marshall sounds, it is hard to replicate, but maybe that's just me.
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Old 04-23-2013, 08:13 AM   #12
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Dude, buy used. I got my GH50L for $400 from Guitar Center.
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Old 04-23-2013, 08:44 AM   #13
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After searching GC they have a GH100 for $450, and a GH50 for $450 with no back plate, and another GH50 for $599. Kind of confusing why so many amps are missing back plates. In your opinion does the GH50 get ridiculously loud too quick? I think that 50w might be too much.
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I'm still on the fence. I like the idea of the Krank being cheaper and a scaled down JCM 800 with a clean channel. It is right around the wattage that would work best for me. However, knowing how I am, I hate to admit it but the name brand gets me. Something about the way a Marshall sounds, it is hard to replicate, but maybe that's just me.

Don't be a name-brand *****

It is your money and you need to make the call, but the Krank 1980 Jr is an excellent option you should keep in mind
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After searching GC they have a GH100 for $450, and a GH50 for $450 with no back plate, and another GH50 for $599. Kind of confusing why so many amps are missing back plates. In your opinion does the GH50 get ridiculously loud too quick? I think that 50w might be too much.


Well your version of loud and my version of loud are two different things. But I'm able to keep up with a band, or play at 9 pm while my family is watching primetime TV. Granted the tone is slightly different, but both are great. It can do low volume...yes.
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I am pretty close to puling the trigger on the Laney. Only reason for picking that over the Krank is the fact that I am planning on buying a PRS soon, thus completing my Opeth obsession. I will need to buy a reverb pedal either way due to lack of verb on all of the amps mentioned. I think that the Laney is slightly more versatile than the Krank, but I have been wrong once or twice before.
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The Laney GH is a really good amp, I'd say really the only thing the Krank has on it is a foot switchable clean channel. If you don't need a dedicated clean, even I'd get the Laney.

The Krank is great if you want HR Marshall tone in a low watt space saver. but it certainly does not sound like a little amp
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I thought that the Laney had two channels?
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I thought that the Laney had two channels?

No the GH 50/100/100ti are 1 ch amps they have a foot switchable boost, but only 1 channel.

The Laney VH100r is the 2 ch version of the GH
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Got it, thanks for that info. I don't need a clean channel, but it is nice to have one nonetheless. From what I have observed the Laney can clean up fairly well. Correct?
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