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Old 04-26-2013, 04:25 AM   #1
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When do you think amps and pedals will become obsolete?

I have been thinking with steadily improving amp modelling and bigger faster computers its only a matter of time before our beloved friends with knobies become obsolete. I give it ten years before the amp and pedal is obsolete. So GG&A how long do you think it will take?
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Old 04-26-2013, 04:32 AM   #2
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that's what they said about tube amps when they brought out solid state....
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Old 04-26-2013, 04:38 AM   #5
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They'll never become obsolete because most players don't like going direct. They'll likely be using guitar cabinets for their physical characteristics. If you're playing through a guitar cabinet, a regular amp isn't that much of a stretch. And why get a modeler when you can have the real thing? Most touring musicians who use an Axe-FX don't even use a lot of amp models. They normally have one basic dirty sound and one basic clean sound. Other patches are just variations of those. They would be fine with 1 or 2 amps. The main advantage of modelling is easy routing of amps and effects.
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Old 04-26-2013, 04:42 AM   #6
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When was the last time this thread was made? I was saying ten years because either they will surpass tube amps, tastes will change or the electric guitar dies as an instrument due to rappers and Dj's dropping the bass.
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When was the last time this thread was made? I was saying ten years because either they will surpass tube amps, tastes will change or the electric guitar dies as an instrument due to rappers and Dj's dropping the bass.

electric guitar survived through disco. i highly doubt it's going to go extinct as a result of shitstep.
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Old 04-26-2013, 05:22 AM   #8
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When was the last time this thread was made? I was saying ten years because either they will surpass tube amps, tastes will change or the electric guitar dies as an instrument due to rappers and Dj's dropping the bass.

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Also, I don't think people will stop playing the guitar. People don't only play guitar to sell lots of records, they play it because it's fun. Even if all new music was electronic, people would still play the guitar for fun. It's fun to jam with a band. And that can't be done with computers. Same with classical music: People still play it even though you can model an orchestra with a computer. It's fun to play an instrument.

And as somebody said, many times people only use a couple of amp models. They really don't need the 100 other amp models because they just find two or three that sound the best. And that's basically the same as buying the real thing. AxeFX costs what? $2000? For the same price (or less) you can get the real thing it models. Though multi FX is really useful for people who need lots of different sounds. But for example I don't need that many sounds. I like my amp's distortion and clean channel and that's all I need. So no, I don't think non-digital amps will completely be replaced by digital stuff.
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Hey you remember that thing called the violin? Of course you do.

Hey you remember that thing called the piano? Oh yeah, that still exists.

It's not like, hey, new genres of music, SAY GOODBYE TO ALL THE OTHER STUFF LOLZ. We still have orchestras, we still have big bands, we still have rock bands and we have new bands too.

Use modelling, don't use modelling, who cares? Shut up.
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An alpha male with a cool guitar, an amp cranked to 11 and a rebel image is essentially integral to the nature and spirit of rock music. So long as there is rock music, there'll always be amps.

Which looks more rock n roll? Reaching over and cranking an amp to 11... or clicking on a mouse?
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An alpha male with a cool guitar, an amp cranked to 11 and a rebel image is essentially integral to the nature and spirit of rock music. So long as there is rock music, there'll always be amps.

Which looks more rock n roll? Reaching over and cranking an amp to 11... or clicking on a mouse?

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I have been thinking with steadily improving amp modelling and bigger faster computers its only a matter of time before our beloved friends with knobies become obsolete. I give it ten years before the amp and pedal is obsolete. So GG&A how long do you think it will take?

They will never become "obsolete" per say, it's not like in 10 years you will see the shelves of antique stores lined with guitar gear. I think the technology that goes into building amps and pedals (including developments in analog electronics) will make things that maybe we are used to today seem obsolete. It's always been really progressive.
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You guys aren't even thinking of the possibility that we might blow ourselves up before we reach 10 years so it could be meaningless altogether..
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You guys aren't even thinking of the possibility that we might blow ourselves before we reach 10 years so it could be meaningless altogether..

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Genuinely, I think a naturally driven tube amp is significantly better than modelling software. I use both and the dynamics are, as far as I'm concerned significantly better with the real deal. I don't think modelling software with ever be able to capture it.

In saying that - I do enjoy using Guitar Rig e.t.c. because it's nice to have a large amount of tones and choices at your finger tips that are to a high standard.

Also, imagine Slash playing Sweet Child of Mine and 15 seconds into the intro he gets a windows error message pop up or his ASIO for all drivers crash and some nerdy IT technician comes out and starts re-booting his laptop. Not very rock and roll.

ALSO! People chase a lot of vintage tones and there is no convincing some gear heads that modelling is as good as an original 1962 Marshall Bluesbreaker. I'm probably one of those people.

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Old 04-26-2013, 08:20 AM   #18
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Pedals will become useless? Pshh, it's not as if anyone would actually want to change their sound on the fly.
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Never. We still have vinyls as well. And that's not because the sound quality would be better.
Same thing with amps, even if the digital modelling stuff would be way more advanced and technically better, they still won't be the same thing, and that's why the amp will survive.

On a side note, I've never heard a modelling amplifier that would sound exactly like the real deal. It always has that little bit of digital sound to it.
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