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Old 04-28-2013, 06:51 PM   #1
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2i4 + Reaper Samples

I'm not getting the sound I want and I'm getting that "it's impossible" feeling. Somebody please post a sample of something using Reaper and a 2i4. I'm using Hybrit and I'm DIing, too, so if you can mix that whole combination that'd be great.
Also, when I DI, I just plug my guitar straight into my 2i4. Is that right? I keep hearing about "DI boxes"
One more thing. What is "tight" playing? I guess I'm not up on the lingo.
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Old 04-28-2013, 07:13 PM   #2
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plugging straight into the 2i4 is the right thing to do, you do not need a DI box.

tight playing means playing in time, essentially. it is making sure all the notes are played at the right times, the opposite of sloppy playing. if your playing is not tight and you try to double a part, things will not line up correctly and it will sound bad.
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Old 04-28-2013, 07:47 PM   #3
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the LePou plugins are excellent for what they are and i've got a very good and usable tone from them every time. However, you've got to focus more on what they sound like in the mix rather then as a single thing. You could have a great guitar tone and then put in a full band mix and suddenly it becomes muddy and horrible or whatever. Have you got a sample you can show us?

EDIT: also another thing, make sure your input isn't peaking, because guitars clip much easier when DI'ing then when you mic up an amp
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Old 04-28-2013, 08:27 PM   #4
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plugging straight into the 2i4 is the right thing to do, you do not need a DI box.


Sorry to thread jack, but I have a couple relevant questions...

Can the same be said for the 2i4's little brother, the 2i2? If so, can you reamp that way as well or will that make a DI necessary?
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Old 04-28-2013, 08:29 PM   #5
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Sorry to thread jack, but I have a couple relevant questions...

Can the same be said for the 2i4's little brother, the 2i2? If so, can you reamp that way as well or will that make a DI necessary?


reamping you'd need a DI box for, as you'd mic an amp and have the DI input which is only really possible with a DI box that has a link to send to a miced up amp.

but yes, you can just plug straight into pretty much any interface
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Old 04-28-2013, 08:36 PM   #6
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reamping you'd need a DI box for, as you'd mic an amp and have the DI input which is only really possible with a DI box that has a link to send to a miced up amp.

but yes, you can just plug straight into pretty much any interface


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Old 04-28-2013, 08:51 PM   #7
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Maybe you could get an example of what you want to sound like, from a recording that has the sound you're looking for. You might be able to approximate it if you listen to that track while you adjust your sound.
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Old 04-28-2013, 10:40 PM   #8
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reamping does not require a DI box. the idea is to take a plain signal that was recorded, and then send it back out to an amp to re-record. what you would need is something to take the line level signal from your interface output and convert it back to a guitar level signal. you can use some DIs as they function both ways, but they also make specific reamp boxes.

essentially you are just recording a clean signal DI, and then sending back to the amp later to record that way.
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Old 04-29-2013, 06:49 AM   #9
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It always seems that way when you first start out. I'm not even that good but I'm still WAY better than I was when I first started and I've only been taking it seriously about 2 years.
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Old 04-29-2013, 10:57 AM   #10
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It always seems that way when you first start out. I'm not even that good but I'm still WAY better than I was when I first started and I've only been taking it seriously about 2 years.

+1

You should've heard some of my first recordings/mixes/etc. I don't even know how I could have been like that anymore. And I'm not even close to most of the regulars here yet.
Two biggest tips I can give you though, and the ones that I instantly noticed the improvement on my mixes when I started following them:
1. Don't over mix. A well recorded track should more or less fit into the mix without any processing at all, all you want to do is clean it up a little and add some slight improvements.
2. Don't ever, ever, EVER, try to dial in your guitar tone without some context of the rest of the mix. Seriously, some of my best mixes, if you were to solo the guitar tracks would sound so harsh and brittle and awful that it's not even funny. But once you fill them out with a bass guitar and put them in context they fit very nicely.
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+1 on the over mix stuff. Really helped when I got my Saffire6.

I was never happy with my recording quality when I had a UX1. It NEVER sounded good. Moving on the Saffire6 though, dem preamps... just made everything so much easier. All I really have to do now is some intelligent EQ to create space, I very rarely have to do much corrective EQ these days.
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Old 05-01-2013, 02:39 PM   #12
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How do I add a sample for you?
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Old 05-01-2013, 02:48 PM   #13
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Put it on soundcloud or on your profile or something. Even drop box.


Anything but Youtube.
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Old 05-01-2013, 03:00 PM   #14
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I added a bass track but yo can barely hear it.
So far the only FX I'm using is the distortion (Hybrit)
But I've been told to get the best possible dry signal before I go into other FX
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What type of sound are you trying for exactly? I use a variety of free vsts/amp sims if you want to check my music out in my link and if you hear a tone you like I could give some suggestions?
No matter what type of sound you're going for though I would like to recommend the Ambience vst, one of the best reverbs I've used, its free, and versatile.
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Old 05-03-2013, 03:07 PM   #16
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I haven't messed with anything other than the Hybrit amp. I can't get my cab sim to work. I'm looking for NOFX sounds and Against Me! (Pre New Wave) sounds. Kind of a barre-chord punk.

All the other VST's are intimidating. I open them up and don't even know where to begin. Even on Hybrit, I know how to mess with my real amp's eq but there's options on these amp sims even that I don't understand.
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Old 05-03-2013, 03:35 PM   #17
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You don't have a cab IR. Get KeFir or Recab and load up an impulse response. Here are some nice free ones: http://www.redwirez.com/free1960g12m25s.jsp
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Old 05-03-2013, 03:54 PM   #18
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I'm pretty sure I have this.
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Make sure the mix is set to 100% if you're using KeFir.
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Old 05-03-2013, 05:21 PM   #20
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Is that wha the "load" thing is on LeCab?
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