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Old 04-28-2013, 08:29 PM   #1
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How do I get tones like these? Using amp sims

I just recently got a Scarlett 2i4 interface and got some help in here with setting everything up. The plugins I'm using are a TSE 808, a Paulin Legion amp, and a Paulin LeCab with a Catharsis impulse. Is there anything more I should get?



How do I get that djenty twang thing on the low notes like in the first riff?



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Old 04-28-2013, 09:10 PM   #2
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use your ears. Theres a million ways you could do it. Listen to the sound and dissect it... Use what you have available - i'm saying this because if you do it that way you won't ever know not how to get a sound!
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Old 04-28-2013, 09:13 PM   #3
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use your ears. Theres a million ways you could do it. Listen to the sound and dissect it... Use what you have available - i'm saying this because if you do it that way you won't ever know not how to get a sound!


I'm not asking for specific settings. I'm asking what kind of plugins and gear I should use. I have no idea what to do myself so I'm asking here. Like a couple days ago I thought all I needed was the amp plugin, then I found out about impulses and stuff. I don't know how I was supposed to know that without someone else telling me.
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Old 04-28-2013, 09:20 PM   #4
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I'm not asking for specific settings. I'm asking what kind of plugins and gear I should use. I have no idea what to do myself so I'm asking here. Like a couple days ago I thought all I needed was the amp plugin, then I found out about impulses and stuff. I don't know how I was supposed to know that without someone else telling me.

LePou's LeGion, LeCab, and whatever IR's will work. Also, it REALLY helps to get a 7 or 8 string guitar.

The TSE 808 is useful as well, as a signal booster mainly.
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Old 04-28-2013, 09:49 PM   #5
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LePou's LeGion, LeCab, and whatever IR's will work. Also, it REALLY helps to get a 7 or 8 string guitar.

The TSE 808 is useful as well, as a signal booster mainly.


I do have a 7 string. It was making the djenty sound when I only had the LeGion open and nothing else. Once I got the LeCab in there it stopped. Maybe it has to do with tuning or string guage? I have .009-.054 on it right now
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I do have a 7 string. It was making the djenty sound when I only had the LeGion open and nothing else. Once I got the LeCab in there it stopped. Maybe it has to do with tuning or string guage? I have .009-.054 on it right now

Did you put an Impulse into the LeCab and turn on LeCab?

You also should hard pan left and right, as I'm sure you know, but your LeCab should look something similar to this:

Ok, this is panned left. I assume you can figure out panned right. I choose to have 3 cabs selected. Your volume settings can vary, but I find I get a fully sound if I have them somewhat like the green circled parts (meaning the 1st one is louder, the 2nd one is quiter than the 1st, and the 3rd is quietest of all). Obviously, you need to click left for panning left. You need to turn each power switch on. Also, I prefer to use different impulses in each "cab", but that's a personal thing. By adjusting this how you want it (and adjusting your amp), you should be able to get a nice, thick Djent-y or Metal sound. Best of luck.
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Old 04-29-2013, 06:45 AM   #7
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I'll tell you the same thing that I tell every one else.

Tone Chasing is the easiest way to put you off recording. You are not that guitarist and you are not that producer. You are not using that equipment and you're not going to play exactly the same way as the guy you're trying to copy.

You'll never quite get it, because there are too many variables. You're better off finding a tone you like by playing around with what you have to you get something you like.
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I'll tell you the same thing that I tell every one else.

Tone Chasing is the easiest way to put you off recording. You are not that guitarist and you are not that producer. You are not using that equipment and you're not going to play exactly the same way as the guy you're trying to copy.

You'll never quite get it, because there are too many variables. You're better off finding a tone you like by playing around with what you have to you get something you like.


Chasing someones tone would be the hardness job since the fingers are where most magic comes from, Best spend the time finding your own tone But even then it's hard enough settling on "Your tone" with only one amp Treble, mid, bass & Drive controls and 1 or 2 pedals..

AND the Digital world Give you 1000 more options... THo it is FUN but Have to admit not much recording gets done
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I've never really tried to get a djenty tone but most of them sound like they have a bunch of compression going in (from a compression pedal) so that may be what you are missing in your chain.
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The djeneric djent djone is really easily done. It won't sound EXACTLY the same, but using Amp Sims is perfectly possible to do some djenty stuff. Hell most small djent projects use the Free Amp sims... cuz well... they're just basement dwellers most of the time

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90% of the twang and tone in djent is from the playing. Make sure you've got loose enough strings that they detune a bit when you hit them.
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Old 05-02-2013, 08:28 PM   #13
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Alright I'm sort of figuring out some ways to get the twangy thing.

A couple other problems I have are there's always static in the background, and it's kind of scratchy. I saw in the tutorial ITT that you can get rid of certain frequencies by adjusting the EQ or something? Except I don't know what EQ is or how it works or anything like that. So is there any videos or anything that teaches the basics of stuff like EQ, compression, etc?
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It depends what the cause of the hiss is.

If you don't even know what EQ is I'd recomend looking at the Recording Revolution tutorials on youtube.


Which you probably would of found if you'd google searched for yourself _
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Old 05-04-2013, 01:01 AM   #15
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The background static is being caused by the plugins I think. If I unplug my guitar it's still there and if I turn the gain down it goes away. It's kind of loud
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Then use a noise gate.
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Then use a noise gate.


I am but it's still comes through. Especially noticeable with palm muted notes. I think it's the LeGion amp so I'm going to try some other ones.
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I'd assume it's more likely a case of not setting the gate quite right or not putting it in the chain at the right place.
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