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Old 04-30-2013, 04:53 AM   #21
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Yeah, I think it kind of depends. Jazz is kind of more "sophisticated" music than pop and people who listen to jazz usually listen to classical too. Though that doesn't make it not pop. Yeah, maybe jazz is also pop.
What jazz is (allegedly) good for, is demoing stereo equipment. Since in large part, there are no vocals, you can run your mouth with your sales pitch, and "cut right through the mix, so to speak....

I've developed a philosophy toward people, (mostly yuppies). who listen to jazz to establish their sophistication.

I'd rather be able to play a 3 chord Rolling Stones country send up, than have to sit through a jazz album..


Disclaimer: The opinions expressed herein, are not necessarily those of someone in his right mind....
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Old 04-30-2013, 05:37 PM   #22
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Awesome, thanks guys.
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Old 05-01-2013, 09:43 AM   #23
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TS, I think you're MissingSomethin from your progressions...


I see what you did there...
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Old 05-01-2013, 10:29 AM   #24
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^ Jeez, you really are a Sn@il!
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Old 05-01-2013, 10:44 AM   #25
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Minor, augmented and diminished chords all broaden your sound. Not feeling like using them is your preference, for the moment at least, but your style will sound monotonous. If that's a sound you like, you can get a lot of mileage out of it. I played almost exclusively with major chords for years before feeling limited.

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Old 05-01-2013, 11:50 AM   #26
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I consider Jazz and Pop to be in the same boat.


I agree - Justin Beiber and Kenny Burrell share the same oceanview cabin. Ke$ha and George Van Epps...saw them at breakfast. George likes pineapple, while Ke$ha was a turkey bacon girl.



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Old 05-01-2013, 12:22 PM   #27
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After 20 years you've never learnt how to use minor chords? Did you have massive gaps in those 20 years? Its hard to find a song that doesnt use them.

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Old 05-01-2013, 12:25 PM   #28
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I agree - Justin Beiber and Kenny Burrell share the same oceanview cabin. Ke$ha and George Van Epps...saw them at breakfast. George likes pineapple, while Ke$ha was a turkey bacon girl.



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Though I like Jazz, I agree; for as Monk said, "Jazz is all music."
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Old 05-01-2013, 07:43 PM   #29
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I've played tons of covers that have minor chords.
I've been using Dorian mode for lead playing for years now.

I only meant when writing riffs and progressions to jam over, I never ever think to use a minor chord.
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Old 05-01-2013, 08:15 PM   #30
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I've played tons of covers that have minor chords.
I've been using Dorian mode for lead playing for years now.

I only meant when writing riffs and progressions to jam over, I never ever think to use a minor chord.

Lol. Try writing in a minor key.
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Old 05-01-2013, 08:25 PM   #31
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I've been using Dorian mode for lead playing for years now.

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Old 05-01-2013, 09:33 PM   #32
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Normally, I just pick about 3 chords to jam over, so that's how I've gotten away with always doing major chords, even though I'd solo in penta minor, Dorian, or Mixolydian.

http://www.jamplay.com/articles/5-g...rd-progressions

So, so here is what I did today. I harmonized the Dorian mode to get i ii III IV v vi(dim) VII. Choosing D Dorian, I sturmmed a cool sounding Dm C G. I recognize the Dm->G from "Another Brick". I then used my trust old D Dorian mode to play lead over this progression.

This was a nice leap forward. I plan to spend more time on Dorian mode progressions based on i ii III IV v vi(dim) VII. For whatever reason, whenever I tried this in a major scale using I ii iii IV V vi vii(dim), it sounded stupid.
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Old 05-01-2013, 10:16 PM   #33
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well done, TS.
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Old 05-02-2013, 02:37 AM   #34
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I advise you become more comfortable with using minor chords and playing in major keys before venturing into modes. That way you'll recognise what a progression in a minor key sounds like.

Although this whole thing is confusing. You never used minor chords, but think the major key sounds stupid. What have you been playing TS?
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Old 05-03-2013, 02:28 AM   #35
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well done, TS.

Lol. Never occured to me UG MT has trolls
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Old 05-03-2013, 12:47 PM   #36
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Lol. Never occured to me UG MT has trolls


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So, so here is what I did today. I harmonized the Dorian mode to get i ii III IV v vi(dim) VII. Choosing D Dorian, I sturmmed a cool sounding Dm C G. I recognize the Dm->G from "Another Brick". I then used my trust old D Dorian mode to play lead over this progression..
Try, "Another Brick in the Wall", in Drop D tuning. You can Dorian mode drone your ass off.

Better still, down tune the guitar to D standard, and put a five string capo on the 2nd fret.

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Old 05-04-2013, 11:37 PM   #38
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Who is TS?
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Old 05-05-2013, 12:14 AM   #39
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Who is TS?
You is "TS", the "topic starter".

Are you missing these things on purpose?

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Old 05-05-2013, 10:56 AM   #40
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You is "TS", the "topic starter".

Are you missing these things on purpose?

I thought TS stood for Thread Starter.

TS, you play that dorian scale. Play it good, and play it true.
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