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Old 05-03-2013, 07:01 AM   #21
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IMO Agiles are easily superior to Epiphones. Better even than the lower-priced Gibsons.

And how many gibsons have you owned/played and how many Agiles?

I would have to say most of the Internet Gibson hate is people who can not/do not want to afford one.
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Old 05-03-2013, 07:09 AM   #22
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IMO Agiles are easily superior to Epiphones. Better even than the lower-priced Gibsons.


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Old 05-03-2013, 08:15 AM   #23
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No they are not, Agile is on par with Epiphone yes, but not Gibson.


Sorry, just re-read my post, and I didn't mean the whole line was equal, but between those two guitars that I was playing I would say quality, sound and playability where the same.
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Old 05-03-2013, 09:25 AM   #24
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No they aren't.


IMO, they are.
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Old 05-03-2013, 09:54 AM   #25
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Agiles seem to reasonable guitars considering the cash. I have a Douglas, I was lucky that it came from the factory pretty decent. Another friend of mine got one, the solder job they did on it was pitiful, I had to redo all the connections, but other than that, it was fine.

I think it is pretty unreasonable to compare an Agile to a Gibson, by and large Gibsons have a good rep and their guitars have good QC, the low end models tend to have more lemons than I think is acceptable, but at the same time the low end of any brand is going to have similar issues, the low end Gibsons just happen to be much more expensive than other companies' low end guitars.

Agile isn't really the same league. Sure, you can compare an Agile LP clone with the cheapest LP Gibson makes, and you might get the right Agile and wrong Gibson and have a match. Now compare the Agile to what it is really supposed to model, a standard (traditional) or custom. Not even on Agile's best day do those two compare.
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Old 05-03-2013, 10:02 AM   #26
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No one is right or wrong in this thread, everyone is entitled to their opinion. Ive owned an Agile 3000 and would say its a decent guitar, really nice value for the cost. But to say that it blows all epiphones and gibsons out of the water is unreal, it really depends on the guitar. It's definitely a good guitar and better then a good chunk of epiphones and gibsons i've played but thats just my luck (and due to the fact that most guitar stores don't have a clue as to how to setup guitars).
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Old 05-03-2013, 10:26 AM   #27
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No one is right or wrong in this thread, everyone is entitled to their opinion. Ive owned an Agile 3000 and would say its a decent guitar, really nice value for the cost. But to say that it blows all epiphones and gibsons out of the water is unreal, it really depends on the guitar. It's definitely a good guitar and better then a good chunk of epiphones and gibsons i've played but thats just my luck (and due to the fact that most guitar stores don't have a clue as to how to setup guitars).


Exactly. We're all stating opinions. IMO, the Agiles I've played are better-made instruments than the Epiphone Les Pauls I've played in recent years. They are also better-made than some of the inexpensive Gibsons I've played at GC in the past few years. Do they blow ALL Gibsons away? No. But I've also never seen anyone write that who wasn't joking.
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Old 05-03-2013, 10:59 AM   #28
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I've never seen anyone write that, period.
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Old 05-03-2013, 01:14 PM   #29
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I haven't either.
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Old 05-03-2013, 02:15 PM   #30
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I haven't either.


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Old 05-03-2013, 05:21 PM   #31
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How would an Agile AL-2000 compare to an Epiphone Les Paul Standard? I've been getting mixed sayings so I was wondering if one of you guys could give me a solid answer.
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Old 05-03-2013, 05:31 PM   #32
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Play them and find out.

Personally I wouldn't take that over the Epiphone.
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Old 05-03-2013, 05:54 PM   #33
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How would an Agile AL-2000 compare to an Epiphone Les Paul Standard? I've been getting mixed sayings so I was wondering if one of you guys could give me a solid answer.


My solid answer is the Agile is superior.

This guy agrees with me:

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Old 05-03-2013, 06:04 PM   #34
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This owner compares the Agile AL-2000 favorably with a Gibson.

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Old 05-03-2013, 06:09 PM   #35
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and just for fun, here's one of my favorite Youtube Agile players, rocking his AL-2000 goldtop:



He really starts to hit his stride at about 1:34. Tasty....

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Old 05-03-2013, 07:56 PM   #36
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Dude nobody cares. You have people on Youtube saying that their Epiphone Special II is better than a Gibson.
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Dude nobody cares. You have people on Youtube saying that their Epiphone Special II is better than a Gibson.

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Anyways I've worked on a few that needed fret leveling or had faulty parts.
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Dude nobody cares. You have people on Youtube saying that their Epiphone Special II is better than a Gibson.


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Old 05-03-2013, 09:15 PM   #39
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Dude nobody cares. You have people on Youtube saying that their Epiphone Special II is better than a Gibson.

+1

I have played cheap guitars that felt great, and expensive guitars that felt horrible. Gibson's have better quality wood, hardware and electronics. Now if you like it great but you don't have to. But this is fact
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Old 05-03-2013, 11:00 PM   #40
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I have owned 3 agile guitars. An Al2000, 3100 and 3010SE. All of them were great guitars...for the money. Now I have had 2 gibson faded SG's, which would arguably be the lower budget gibson guitars. The quality of the Gibson guitar was better, the sound of the Gibson was better. I always do the sustain and resonance test (strum a chord and put your hand at the bottom strap button and top of the head stock) and in both SG's you could feel more resonance. Granted all this is subjective. Are the Agile's good guitars. Yes. Do they compare to Gibson's . But whoever claims they play better than Studios or higher level Gibson's, that's just nucking futts! When I had an Agile I rationalized it as being on par, because I was not willing to shell out the dough for the Gibson, now I have taken the plunge and got a Standard and it blows the Agiles out of the water.
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