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Old 05-05-2013, 10:06 PM   #21
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if you liked Master of Puppets, you may like Ride The lightning [better guitar work] or ...And Justice for all [better vocals].
As for bands, I'm not sure what you mean by
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thrash/mindless shred (guitar masturbation)
thrash is a sub-genre of metal, shred refers to a style of soloing [i.e. very fast and technical] which is not exclusive to metal.
you could try Iced Earth...
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Like others have suggested, Mastodon. Not a huge fan but they fit your criteria more than any other band I can think of
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Old 05-05-2013, 10:10 PM   #22
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Muse is garbage, and you should be ashamed.

They use the same song structure as every other band on the radio.
New Born, Citizen Erased, Eternally Missed, Forced In, Assassin (GOB Edit), Exogenesis...

Not one of those songs follows the same song structure... or is Garbage for that matter .


OT: If you like Katatonia, Opeth and Muse (as I do), then a few other suggestions:
Ne Obliviscaris
Guilt Machine
Battle Circus (more rock but whatever, oh and free album)
Porcupine Tree (start with Fear of a Blank Planet)
Riverside (start with Second Life Syndrome)
Karnivool (start with Sound Awake)
Haken (start with Visions)
Tesseract
Swallow The Sun (start with The Morning Never Came)

I'm also going to say Cynic, but it might be a bit early for that...

EDIT: I forgot Symphony X. Paradise Lost might be a good place to start.
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Old 05-05-2013, 10:11 PM   #23
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If you like Tool, a lot of people compare Karnivool to them. YMMV but while I think they're significantly different I still quite enjoy Karnivool.
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Old 05-05-2013, 10:11 PM   #24
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Seriously though, maybe check out Hardcore Superstar (don't be fooled by the name, they're not a hardcore band)
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Old 05-05-2013, 10:13 PM   #25
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Check out Cynic or Angra. If you don't like these bands then there is something wrong with you...
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Old 05-05-2013, 10:18 PM   #26
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New Born, Citizen Erased, Eternally Missed, Forced In, Assassin (GOB Edit), Exogenesis...

Not one of those songs follows the same song structure... or is Garbage for that matter .

I wasn't saying Muse had the same song structure every song. That said, new Muse certainly is garbage.


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OT: If you like Katatonia, Opeth and Muse (as I do), then a few other suggestions:
Ne Obliviscaris
Guilt Machine
Battle Circus (more rock but whatever, oh and free album)
Porcupine Tree (start with Fear of a Blank Planet)
Riverside (start with Second Life Syndrome)
Karnivool (start with Sound Awake)
Haken (start with Visions)
Tesseract
Swallow The Sun (start with The Morning Never Came)

I'm also going to say Cynic, but it might be a bit early for that...

Aside from TessacT and Riverside (but those are more personal things), I'd agree with all of these choices.

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Yeah, I guess you're right about Chevelle. Its not like certain song structures are popular because they work well. That would be silly.
Atypical song structures can be good. Care to show me your favourite example?

Check out some Post-Metal. Neurosis, Isis, and Cult of Luna are good places to start.
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Old 05-05-2013, 10:19 PM   #27
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Old 05-05-2013, 10:24 PM   #28
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if you liked Master of Puppets, you may like Ride The lightning [better guitar work] or ...And Justice for all [better vocals].
As for bands, I'm not sure what you mean by thrash is a sub-genre of metal, shred refers to a style of soloing [i.e. very fast and technical] which is not exclusive to metal.
you could try Iced Earth...
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Like others have suggested, Mastodon. Not a huge fan but they fit your criteria more than any other band I can think of
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Yeah man, there's definitely some good Metallica. I don't agree with the band's politics AT ALL, but they make some good music. Some.

I guess what I mean by thrash and shred is just what (to me) seems like mindless competitions in who can play guitar solos or drum the fastest. Its not a competition, people. A crazy fast riff here and there can be good, but I think its tasteless when the entire song is a race to see who can break the sound barrier on their kick drums or flying v guitar. There's no contrast to the speed demonry when its done that way, ya kno?

I know my criteria are kind of (overly) specific. I haven't had much luck finding metal that I like on my own, hence the thread.

I should also mention that I was really into Incubus (their old, old stuff was kind of metal-y. Kind of..). Deftones, Chevelle, Tool, some APC....
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He was trolling...

Of course, you're either trolling us, incapable of looking in the stickied Metal rec's thread, or just arrogantly stupid about what is good Metal. Hint: Around here, good Metal is usually based upon the quality of the songwriting and composition.

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I should also mention that I was really into Incubus (their old, old stuff was kind of metal-y. Kind of..). Deftones, Chevelle, Tool, some APC....

This is exactly what I'm talking about. You list off some Nu Metal or Alt. Hard Rock bands (as if we're supposed to take you seriously) and then are asking for similar bands that are "Metal". What?!
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Old 05-05-2013, 10:32 PM   #31
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Old 05-05-2013, 10:35 PM   #32
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Old 05-05-2013, 10:38 PM   #33
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The ocean collective's last 3 albums, corelia, friend for a foe, returning we hear the larks, skyharbor most the of the aforementioned bands. Really for your specifications just google prog metal.

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Old 05-05-2013, 10:40 PM   #34
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Old 05-05-2013, 10:44 PM   #35
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OT: If you like Katatonia, Opeth and Muse (as I do), then a few other suggestions:
Ne Obliviscaris
Guilt Machine
Battle Circus (more rock but whatever, oh and free album)
Porcupine Tree (start with Fear of a Blank Planet)
Riverside (start with Second Life Syndrome)
Karnivool (start with Sound Awake)
Haken (start with Visions)
Tesseract
Swallow The Sun (start with The Morning Never Came)

I'm also going to say Cynic, but it might be a bit early for that...



Sweet; hefty list.

Ne Obliviscaris is DOOOPEE. thanks for that one.

Not of a fan of the Guilt Machine vocals at all. The intros were promising on the songs I listened to... then splat.

Battle Circus are some weird mother****ers. But great music. Definately a muse-like vibe there. Definitely getting that album.

Porcupine Tree. Get out of my head. This band is too good. I'm gonna get that album as soon as I can.

Riverside's alright, I guess. Some parts of their songs were interesting... but it didn't work for me as a whole. I'll check em out more later.

Karnivool's good. I'm going to listen to the full album tonight.

The same goes for Haken.

Annnnd same for Tesseract. These are all good bands man. Kind of prog rock-ish?

Swallow the Sun - COMBO BREAKER. Big meh.


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Yeah, you guys are right. I guess what I was really looking for is prog rock/metal.

I guess REAL METAL (by your definition, XD) isn't really my thing. I wasn't really too educated on its sub genres either. You can return to stroking your flying v guitar whilst listening to dragonforce now.
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He was trolling...

Of course, you're either trolling us, incapable of looking in the stickied Metal rec's thread, or just arrogantly stupid about what is good Metal. Hint: Around here, good Metal is usually based upon the quality of the songwriting and composition.


I know he was trolling. And I was being sarcastic (why would I click a troll's links?).

Yeah man, I must be arrogantly stupid about good metal. DragonForce is obviously the pinnacle of human achievement. Anyone who has an opinion about music that differs from yours is obviously arrogant. In addition, anyone who ignores sticky metal rec threads must be stupid because its not as though a person might want opinions outside of the ones already posted there.
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Seriously though, maybe check out Hardcore Superstar (don't be fooled by the name, they're not a hardcore band)


I'll have to work up the red on my neck before I listen to that band again. XD
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