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Old 05-07-2013, 09:21 PM   #1
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Certain technique/bit of theory that abruptly elevated your playing to a new level?

Growth of music skill is not linear. Rather, you are in a rut for sometimes years, and then you learn something new, and wham, you're playing just jumped up more in 1 day than in the last year or two.

Was there a certain technique or bit of theory that abruptly elevated your playing to a new level? Something that took maybe only an hour to learn, yet had huge implications on your playing by opening a whole new door you never knew about.

This is not meant to sound like some shortcut for becoming good. I have been playing 20 years, and know there are no shortcuts in anything complex. But there may be some keys that open some doors that you never knew about b/c you didn't take lessons, or didn't do deliberate practice, etc.

For example, the simple act of moving the minor pentatonic scale down 3 frets opens up an whole new major sounding scale. Instantly. Nice to know. Or, maybe you learned a new mode like Dorian/Mixolydian where your solo sound changed instantly, just by moving the major scale up or down a few frets

Or, maybe it was it finally learning chord construction which allowed you to understand the intervals in the chord tones, and opened the door for including 7th chords (or some other kind) into your vocabulary. etc. One hour, and suddenly, you understand chords, and are now exploring and expanding, since it's not just dots to be memorized.

Can you think of something that was a real "Eurekha!" moment that you had wished you had learned years sooner?
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Old 05-08-2013, 01:57 AM   #2
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Of course.
Top 5:
5. This was not really a specific moment, but I literally doubled (according to the metronome) my playing speed in about a month of LOTS of practice. Compare this to 3 years of playing (slowly, lol) before.
4. The time it finally hit me that I didn't have to learn songs completely perfectly note-for-note anymore, searching through shitty tabs and replaying youtube over and over again.
FREEDOM! Not to mention vastly improved improvisation.
3. Not really a single moment in time either, but understanding the whole concept of intervals...understanding the positions on the fretboard of fifths, octaves, and major/minor thirds, most importantly. Once I started applying these more, Eureka! for sure.
2. Discovering the Minor Pentatonic scale. You know. The basic pattern that makes it insanely easy to create a bajillion rock solos.
1. Said it once before, I'll say it again, LEARNING TO PRACTICE UPSTROKES. The greatest miracle that ever happened to my guitar speed/technical ability. Really part of number 5. though, lol
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Old 05-08-2013, 03:29 AM   #3
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Please elaborate number 1 .
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Old 05-08-2013, 06:17 AM   #4
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Yeah, please elaborate the number 1.
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Old 05-08-2013, 08:10 AM   #5
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For me, it was learning to alternate pick instead of all downstrokes. I guess you could say I mainly economy pick, but who's keeping track anyway?...

Also, learning to pick from the wrist instead of the elbow has really paid off. I can now pick just as fast with more accuracy and without my arm threatening to fall off after a long thrash song.
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Old 05-08-2013, 05:07 PM   #6
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I can now pick just as fast with more accuracy and without my arm threatening to fall off after a long thrash song.


Thou has obviously never playeth the fingercrusher that goes by the name of Take No Prisoners..

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What really helped me as a player technique wise, was to avoid tension at all times.
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Old 05-08-2013, 10:17 PM   #7
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Thou has obviously never playeth the fingercrusher that goes by the name of Take No Prisoners..

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What really helped me as a player technique wise, was to avoid tension at all times.


I don't know -- I can tremelo pick and gallop for a LONG time without tiring.
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Old 05-08-2013, 10:35 PM   #8
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Yeah. Minor chords.

That's a "in joke" for those of you who don't frequent MT.
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Old 05-08-2013, 11:07 PM   #9
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A lot of what KailM said. Learning to alternate pick. Learning to pick from my wrist instead of using my thumb and forefinger. Learning that tremolo picking does actually involve timing, as opposed to just PICK AS FAST AS YOU CAN...


100% down with this - this was the single most important thing I ever learnt for speed guitar. It drastically changed my timing to a really accurate thing. Took a while to build it into outside picking - since outside picking needs a "hop" on a downward string change and everything is wrist tremolo style. It's really weird when I first started wrist only loose tremolo picking - every thing seemed much less accurate timing - until I stated recording and listened to it - was 100% spot on. I cringe every time I see video showing muting using thumb/forefinger action :P
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Old 05-09-2013, 05:04 AM   #10
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I don't know -- I can tremelo pick and gallop for a LONG time without tiring.


I dare you

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Old 05-09-2013, 08:11 AM   #11
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For me it was using the Pinky...for a long time I rarely did unless just in Chords. I had to force myself to use it just as much as the other fingers and after a long time of workin at it, I noticed I was no longer a 3 fingered lead player!
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Old 05-09-2013, 08:55 AM   #12
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For me someone once said -

"You never need more than one finger pressing down on the fretboard" and for almost any single note line that's a really helpful piece of information.

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Isn't Bleed the gallop death song nowadays?

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Lol, is this a ****-measuring competition? No problems whatsoever playing that song...
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Oh, "Bleed" ... awesome Oo
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Lol, is this a ****-measuring competition? No problems whatsoever playing that song...


Not really, but this was the first song that popped in my head when I read the words "thrash song" and "arm falling off"
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Isn't Bleed the gallop death song nowadays?


Technique wise bleed isn't really that hard for me - I find it harder to understand what the **** is happening riff-wise really. Quite easy to get lost in that one..
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This is still the gallop-doom song for my money:



I have yet to see anyone who can keep up with that for the whole song, even the lead guitarist from the band can't keep it up for the whole song!
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This is still the gallop-doom song for my money:



I have yet to see anyone who can keep up with that for the whole song, even the lead guitarist from the band can't keep it up for the whole song!


I think I could play the whole song.
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I think I could play the whole song.


Good luck, I stand by what I said though.
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I have yet to see anyone who can keep up with that for the whole song, even the lead guitarist from the band can't keep it up for the whole song!


I remember seeing a video of IE where the lead guitarist switches to alt picking halfway through the song because he can't keep up with Jon
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I remember seeing a video of IE where the lead guitarist switches to alt picking halfway through the song because he can't keep up with Jon


probably that very video I posted; Jon Schaffer's picking hand is one of the only ones that really scares me
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