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Old 05-11-2013, 02:31 PM   #1
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What to buy? :| Jackson, ESP, Charvel, Ibanez or Schecter?

So I've been looking forward to buy a new axe and upgrade from my current Epiphone Les Paul and I've come across the following guitars:

Jackson RRXMG,
Esp ec 401,
Charvel dx1 or ds1
Schecter damien avenger
Ibanez art500

I mostly play heavy metal and a bit of hard rock. Stuff like Slipknot, Children Of Bodom, Machine Head, Avenged Sevenfold e.t.c.

Amongst these which one is the best buy?

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Old 05-11-2013, 03:08 PM   #2
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The Ibanez be good for your personal tastes, however I myself would prefer a low action and fairly large scaled guitar to play metal, so i'd stay away from the ART, as good as it would be. As it's a les paul shape, the action is fairly high, and it is only a 24.75 scale so a 25.5 scale guitar (most guitars) would probably suit you better.
(I own an ART100DX, it's pretty decent)
If you want information about my Ibanez, then i've had it as my first electric, I used it often in tuning such as drop b (probably a tuning you'd play in, considering the bands you mentioned) and would say it has handled that well.

Can't comment on the other guitars, sorry. I'm still a bit of a newbie, as I only progressed to the electric guitar 6 months ago, after a couple of years playing the acoustic, so I may be wrong in some of the things i've said.
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Old 05-11-2013, 03:29 PM   #3
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Best value is probably the Charvel, then probably the Jackson.

That doesn't have any bearing on what you'll find comfortable/agreeable though. Is there any way you can try them out?

Those guitars are relatively random and seem to have some big disparities, like bridge types. Please answer these questions here and we'll be able to give you the best suggestions we can.

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Old 05-11-2013, 03:51 PM   #4
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You should decide whether you need floyd rose on a guitar.
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Old 05-12-2013, 03:17 AM   #5
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I'll probably be buying them online so there is no way that I can play them out.

Personally I really like the Rhoads because of it's ridiculous shape but then the basswood body keeps me thinking and amongst the others i prefer the ESP and Charvel but then again I don't have any personal experience with them :|

As far as my needs go I want active P'ups, 24 frets, don't really know whether I need a Floyd or not :P, new or used doesn't matter and it should have an awful look.

Hope that helps
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Hope that helps


Nope. What don't you like about your current guitar? Do you plan on changing tunings often?
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Old 05-12-2013, 05:32 AM   #7
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Nope. What don't you like about your current guitar? Do you plan on changing tunings often?


That's one reason, but I also want something which fills in for my heavy metal needs.
I'm not saying that my les Paul can't do metal but let's face it, the EMGs and preferably better than the Epi pickups and I don't want to change em out because they are great for stuff other than metal
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Old 05-12-2013, 06:40 AM   #8
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That's one reason, but I also want something which fills in for my heavy metal needs.
I'm not saying that my les Paul can't do metal but let's face it, the EMGs and preferably better than the Epi pickups and I don't want to change em out because they are great for stuff other than metal


Any guitar can be made to play metal with a distortion unit of some kind is attached.

But if you're looking for a decent priced guitar, bc rich or ESP will be for you.

More specifically, the ESP AX 50.

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I'll probably be buying them online so there is no way that I can play them out.

Personally I really like the Rhoads because of it's ridiculous shape but then the basswood body keeps me thinking and amongst the others i prefer the ESP and Charvel but then again I don't have any personal experience with them :|

As far as my needs go I want active P'ups, 24 frets, don't really know whether I need a Floyd or not :P, new or used doesn't matter and it should have an awful look.

Hope that helps


With active pickups body wood is not very important for the sound as it is with the passive ones.
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With active pickups body wood is not very important for the sound as it is with the passive ones.


True, but it is a soft wood and I have to do all sort of crazy stuff while playing live so it might get a lot of dings and stuff.

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My guitar is made of basswood, sometimes I accidentaly hit something with it but still there's no damage on it.
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With active pickups body wood is not very important for the sound as it is with the passive ones.



You do know that is a myth right?
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Don't touch those Charvels!! Those are the Desolation line and have awful QC, unless you can physically check the actual guitar out prior to buying do not risk it. I'm speaking from experience on those!
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So is that a no go for the Charvel an the Jackson?
What about the Ltd and the Schecter? Are they worth buying?
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You do know that is a myth right?


Actually, I think it's not.
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Old 05-13-2013, 07:37 AM   #16
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Jackson: Good
LTD: Good
Schecter: Good
Charvel: Anything except the Desolation is good.

The problem with the Desolation series is that they moved production to a cheap factory and subsequently the quality control is awful! The one I got was all over the place, wonky bits, paint missing, paint on binding, damaged binding, borked electronics, the whole thing was a mess.

I don't know much about that particular Jackson model you mention but I've certainly never seen a Jackson come along that had even anywhere close to the issues that the Charvel Desolation series seem to be having. Which is crazy given they're basically the same company, I guess they just wanted to keep profit margins high on the desolations.

But yeah anything other than those desolation models should be fine, even other Charvels. Charvel are a good company and make nice guitars, it's just they dropped the ball on that series.

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So is that a no go for the Charvel an the Jackson?
What about the Ltd and the Schecter? Are they worth buying?


I played few Schecters, mostly the Hellraiser series, and they seem like good guitars to me. Didn't like the necks, they were pretty thick, I like the thin ones more.
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I played few Schecters, mostly the Hellraiser series, and they seem like good guitars to me. Didn't like the necks, they were pretty thick, I like the thin ones more.


Yeah but the problem with the damien is the bolt-on construction unlike the hellraiser :/
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Actually, I think it's not.

The difference is that it is actually a myth. Guitars with active pickups don't all sound the same.
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I played few Schecters, mostly the Hellraiser series, and they seem like good guitars to me. Didn't like the necks, they were pretty thick, I like the thin ones more.

Actually, the necks on Schecters have an average thickness. People who say they're too thick are just used to playing on necks that resemble toothpicks.
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