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Old 05-20-2013, 11:24 PM   #61
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King Of Those Who Know is a weird choice...I'm But A Wave To... or something else off of Focus would have been better suited.

I think you two might be misunderstanding each other, though. Stewie, are you saying it sounds like it's influenced by Jazz, and Kristen, are you saying that it's just not Jazz at all?


I'm saying that there are a couple of elements of jazz on the surface, but:

-they're just minor aesthetic elements on the surface, and there is a complete lack of any more concrete underlying elements that would actually make it jazz
-they're not even exclusive "jazz" elements (it's like when people call 7th chords "jazz chords" or refer to anything with distorted guitars and harsh vocals as screamo or death metal)
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Old 05-20-2013, 11:24 PM   #62
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Disclaimer: I really don't know that much about jazz, but I saw someone say that Opeth wasn't jazzy at all in the first page. Counterpoint, maybe? What would this be?

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Old 05-20-2013, 11:26 PM   #63
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I have been assigned to do a Jazz song as assessment at school and my teacher said I can do a Jazz fusion song but I know nothing of this genre so is there any sort of easy Jazz songs that are mixed with the Metal genre?


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Old 05-20-2013, 11:27 PM   #64
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Disclaimer: I really don't know that much about jazz, but I saw someone say that Opeth wasn't jazzy at all in the first page. Counterpoint, maybe? What would this be?

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWtqeNie1Rk[url]

Progressive metal?
Sounds more folky than jazzy to me, tbh
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Old 05-20-2013, 11:28 PM   #65
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Old 05-20-2013, 11:28 PM   #66
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Buy or download the album Swing Shift by Rik Emmett. It's an eleven track disc with each song a different kind of Jazz.

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Old 05-20-2013, 11:33 PM   #67
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It has some stuff going on that has some weird chord changes and voicings, but I don't think every time you hear modulations and dissonance you should start screaming 'bebop!'. I don't doubt it has some fusion influence mixed in there, but it's more prog than anything I think
I'm no expert on prog nor metal, though
For one thing, none of it sounded improvised, and that's like the bedrock of jazz
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Old 05-20-2013, 11:43 PM   #68
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I second Scofield... Listen to his album A Go Go. Hottentot is probably my favourite track on that album.

Also check out Larry Carlton:

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Carlton has a brilliant tone/control of the sound in his hands, and a great melodic sensibility.
The same for Robben Ford.
And Schofield (both John and Matt)

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Old 05-20-2013, 11:55 PM   #70
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For one thing, none of it sounded improvised, and that's like the bedrock of jazz


Which is the reason that you'll probably never find a true Jazz/Metal fusion album. Metal is a much more static genre when it comes to structure, where as Jazz is fluid. It's incredibly difficult to mix the two in the truest sense.
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Old 05-21-2013, 12:02 AM   #71
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Oh dude I forgot to mention; check out Billy Cobham as well. He's actually a drummer, but his fusion stuff is really great.

Check out his album Spectrum:

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Old 05-21-2013, 12:34 AM   #74
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卐 dude just play regular jazz 卐
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Old 05-21-2013, 04:39 AM   #77
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FFS just play some jazz. Who knows, you might actually learn something.

EDIT: Seriously, why is it that every teenage metal/classic rock fan is like this? How many threads already exist where it's something like 'Hey, so my history teacher wants an essay on an important 20th century event. How can I make my essay about Master of Puppets instead?'
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Old 05-21-2013, 04:44 AM   #78
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Old 05-21-2013, 04:56 AM   #80
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Oh, so fusion is meaningless, then? Jazz fascist


Which reminds me of some real Jazz fascists, people should watch the film Swing Kids.
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