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Old 05-23-2013, 11:48 AM   #1
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25.5'" or 27"...

I'm honing in on a couple brands I like for a possible 7 string, but I must ask...What difference does 2 more inches make?
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Old 05-23-2013, 11:53 AM   #2
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On longer scale you dont need as thick strings for same tension as 25.5. Meaning you dont need a huge ass 74 bass string if you go Drop G.
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Old 05-23-2013, 11:54 AM   #3
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Man... What I would do for 2 more inches.
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Man... What I would do for 2 more inches.



Aye.
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Man... What I would do for 2 more inches.



WOULD'NT WE ALL

But on a serious note, would I then have to buy a different type of string that's longer?
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WOULD'NT WE ALL

But on a serious note, would I then have to buy a different type of string that's longer?



Dude, when was the last time you changed strings? Theres a LOT of extra you have to cut off.

That is, if you arent the kind who likes to leave them to pop some eyeballs.
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Old 05-23-2013, 12:17 PM   #7
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Man... What I would do for 2 more inches.


That reminds me. My girlfriend told me she needs nine inches. I told her I'd cut it off to any length she needed.


I hope she didn't hurt herself when she fainted.
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Old 05-23-2013, 12:26 PM   #8
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I'm honing in on a couple brands I like for a possible 7 string, but I must ask...What difference does 2 more inches make?


I'm going with 27"; I get a bit more piano-like clarity out of the bottom end with the longer scale.

Looks like I'm going to end up with another Agile for the time being; just haven't picked which one yet.

You MIGHT want to check out some of the "multi-scale" fan fret models. Some are 25.5" on the treble side and 27" on the bottom, others seem to be 27" and 30" (!). I've found they're actually pretty easy to play.
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Old 05-23-2013, 12:46 PM   #9
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Dude, when was the last time you changed strings? Theres a LOT of extra you have to cut off.

That is, if you arent the kind who likes to leave them to pop some eyeballs.


Well it was back in Nam when I was on leave, strings are a little crusty atm...
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Dude, when was the last time you changed strings? Theres a LOT of extra you have to cut off.

That is, if you arent the kind who likes to leave them to pop some eyeballs.


Depneds, I had a baritone with an inverted inline 8 and the low strings were getting pretty short by the time you tried to tune them up.

What I would say TS, if you intend on playing in dropped tunings all of the time, well the 27 is a safe bet, but if you tune to standard with it, you might find that it sounds rather brittle and thin when playing on the higher strings.

I am not a huge fan but Schecter do a 26.5 scale and there a few Ibanez with that too, the RGD range.

This scale length tends to give a decent balance between the 2.

Myself, I am happy with a 25.5 with heavier gauge strings

My advice would be to go play ass many baritones, 7s and regular guitars as you can.
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Old 05-23-2013, 01:04 PM   #11
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More the merrier really, makes it easier to play on the high range of the fret board and so increases your range a little. Kinda depends what tunings you mostly use, because 27" is suited for B standard and below, so if your using higher tunings you might want to stick to a 25.5"
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27" is fine for standard tunings as well, but I've mostly used 10's for that. If you play jazz at all, that's a killer combination. B standard is baritone territory, and 27" is about the minimum scale for Baritone (I'm used to seeing 28" and up to 30" as baritones, with 30" -34" living mostly in the bass range). Most of these guitars will give you 24 clear frets and, contrary to Tom 1.0, I think it sounds quite powerful in the skinny strings on those guitars, assuming that you haven't cranked the EQ to something odd on your amp.

Remember that you don't hear the fundamental tones from the bottom end of these guitars if you're tuned to B standard (most guitar amps aren't even reproducing the low E on a standard guitar at -10 dB). Your ear is mostly identifying those notes by the combination of overtones in the mids and low mids. When run with a lot of gain/distortion, you're hearing mostly low mids and mids as well. This is especially true when you get your amp out of the bedroom and cranked up to gigging volume levels.
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Old 05-24-2013, 12:32 AM   #13
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I prefer 25" or 25.5" to 27". I really do prefer the tone and feel of 27" for most stuff. I really like how the extra 2 inches feels from about the 10th fret up. When I'm trying to do technical stuff everything before the 10th fret is quite a bit more of a stretch on my 27" guitar.

It's pretty hard to choose one over the other because they both have their advantages. One advantage of a longer scale is the ability to retain string tension with smaller strings. Having that extra length with smaller strings will feel similar to a shorter scale with bigger strings.

I wish I could give a fair comparison, my 8 string is 27", my 7s are both 25.5", and my 6 is 24.75"
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What I don't hear mentioned much about is the bending of strings. It's not a big deal, but you'll have to re-evaluate how far you bend string to get certain pitches. I loved my 27" but for the first couple of weeks, it was annoying as fuck not getting enough bend in solos.
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Old 05-25-2013, 04:37 AM   #15
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Most 7 strings are made 25'5 which means is enough for these tunings. I recommend trying both scales, although baritone is only reason you'd get more tension tuning to G or F standard or drop really.
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Old 05-25-2013, 08:25 AM   #16
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You could always go fanned fret to....25.5 on the treble strings, and 27 on the lower.Agile makes one for around 800$. just another option
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