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Old 05-26-2013, 10:04 AM   #1
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"Another newb with Bar-Chord Problems" Please help :(

Hey guys..

Been practicing for a while now on my bar chords (mostly a Bm chord and a G Bar) and i can make it, and i know it takes a while before you can change to a bar like you can with all the other chords you can do ( like when you were learning what now seems easy)


And thats fine.. Now i have a problem.... I am learning "who says" by John Mayer, and at a point in that song, you have to bar the second fret, but not actually form a chord, and pick some of the strings.

I am a very skinny guy (i am 1.86 Meters tall and weight about 56 kilos.. If that will give you an idea) and my finger are equally long and thin, and i simply have no way of getting enough power in my left hand to push all 6 strings down properly, to actually make the string 3 and 4 ring out cleanly

Im completely lost? It should be said that i have been practicing my regular bar chords and also this open douchebag bar for about a month, and i see improvement in my regular bar chords, with both quicker changes and such, but i cant get the other one right.

I just cant get those strings to ring out properly ;(


My hands might be weak.. i don't know

BTW IM PLAYING AN ACOUSTIC STEEL STRING IBANEZ WITH STRING GAUGES BEING:

10 13 17 30 42 52


Can anyone tell me what to do, or am i lost? I don't think i can even get lighter strings :/

Thanks in advance.

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Old 05-26-2013, 10:09 AM   #2
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And please dont just tell me to stop learning John Mayer I'll just run in to the problem later, and i might as well tackle it now, if i can. :p
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Old 05-26-2013, 11:21 AM   #3
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Just like any other muscle, you just have to keep strengthening it. You might not be able to play it right now, but keep practicing barre chords. You'll build up more strength that way. If you can't do it right now, practice it once in a while, but don't get too hung up on it. If you keep focusing on what you can't do, you'll get too discouraged to actually do it. You'll be able to do it one day if you keep practicing and working on barre chords. Just have patience.
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Old 05-26-2013, 11:25 AM   #4
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Just practise. Really cant help you there. Even understanding indepth theory at that point wont help you. Try hard and you'll get it.
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Old 05-26-2013, 11:31 AM   #5
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Ditto what everybody above said.

I've only been playing for a little over a year. Barre chords on songs I was learning were impossible for me. I'd have to stop at the chord, adjust my thumb, and press with all my strength to get the index finger to hold down all the strings. Even then I sometimes still couldn't get all the strings to ring out.

Now I just play those same barre chords almost without effort.

Be patient.
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Old 05-26-2013, 11:44 AM   #6
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stop learning john mayer hehe just kidding.

strengthening your hand through practice will work, but if you're just using your index finger and no other fingers for this chord, why not bring another finger into the chord? Put your middle finger on top of your index finger and then push down. It should add some power to the index finger because its naturally a little stronger and bigger. Hope that helps
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Old 05-26-2013, 02:13 PM   #7
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Just like any other muscle, you just have to keep strengthening it. You might not be able to play it right now, but keep practicing barre chords. You'll build up more strength that way. If you can't do it right now, practice it once in a while, but don't get too hung up on it. If you keep focusing on what you can't do, you'll get too discouraged to actually do it. You'll be able to do it one day if you keep practicing and working on barre chords. Just have patience.


You don't have muscles in your fingers, just sayin.
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Old 05-26-2013, 08:40 PM   #8
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Yep. Practice, practice, practice.

If you are having trouble with an open barre chord on the second fret, maybe just practice doing an open barre chord on the 14th fret. The further up the neck you go the easier it gets (in terms of action - especially on an electric).
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Old 06-09-2013, 01:48 PM   #9
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Every respond is good but they are missing the most important one. The one I wish someone had told me when I was just starting out.

String action my friend. Based on your post, I assume you are just starting out?
Anyway, I used to have the same problem. I would bar the frets very very hard and still the 3 and sometimes 4th string would have a muted sound. And when you need to pick certain notes while doing those bar, it gets very frustrating.

You do develop strength in your fingers, that is true. But if the string action in your guitar is high (how far apart the strings are from the fretboard) then no matter how strong your fingers are you will not get a clear sound.

Take your guitar to any guitar shop and ask them to lower the string action as low as they can get it without it buzzing. Try it out while you are in there since you don't have to drop your guitar off. They'll do it ok front of you.

Hope this helps
Let me know how it goes after you do that
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Old 06-13-2013, 11:34 AM   #10
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Speaking as another newb (playing six months) suffering the same problem, thanks to everyone for the encouragement.
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