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Old 05-29-2013, 06:42 AM   #1
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Metal Guitar Amp Setup For <400

Hey all,

Looking for a head+2x12 for under 400. People suggested a JCA22/50H but those are out of stock on thomann for an unspecified time, and they do those for about 200-280 whereas elsewhere it'd cost double, so I'm looking for options as I need it soon.

Im happy to use a cheapo power amp + a floor pedal layout or something if it's cheap, eg floor pod+ and a rocktron running into a 2x12.

Thanks very much!
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Old 05-29-2013, 07:13 AM   #2
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Are you in any rush? Those jet cities are likely to be better than anything else you can get (new, anyway) for the same price by quite some margin, it'd really probably be worth waiting until they get them back into stock. Assuming they are getting them back into stock, I guess you could email them to see if/when they'll be back.
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Old 05-29-2013, 07:49 AM   #3
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have a look for a 6505+ 212. wont disappoint! shld be able to get one in your budget
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Old 05-29-2013, 08:07 AM   #4
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have a look for a 6505+ 212. wont disappoint! shld be able to get one in your budget

6505 212 or the 6505+ 112? Some clarification is necessary.
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Old 05-29-2013, 08:17 AM   #5
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sorry, my bad. 6505 212 combo!!!!

our other guitarist uses a 6505+ head and he has a combo at home for his own personal use. it is a 6505+112 combo. Chinese made i do believe.

The 212 combo is USA made although im led to believe it still sounds pretty good with a speaker change.....
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Old 05-29-2013, 08:36 AM   #6
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Concerning the Jet City, it was recommended to me aswell. I asked the customer service at Thomann when it will be available. They said beginning of august.
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Old 05-29-2013, 08:54 AM   #7
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Old 05-29-2013, 10:50 AM   #8
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Check out an Orange Dark Terror - should be able to get one second hand with a Cab in your budget - great amp!

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Old 05-29-2013, 12:58 PM   #9
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The Jet city JCA22 has no clean channel, not sure about the 50. Just something to think about in case you want to be able to play clean. You can dial in a sort of clean, but it's not going to get very loud and still remain sort of clean.
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Old 05-29-2013, 01:14 PM   #10
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Does it need to be tube amp? If not then check Randalls. The better "back to the roots" one is out of stock at the moment but stock should arrive at early july. The second, unless i am mistaken, is similar to rg75 g3 i owned and it wasnt half bad at all.

http://www.thomann.de/gb/randall_rg_1503_head.htm
http://www.thomann.de/gb/randall_rh150g3.htm

Jet city could be better and more versatile choice overall, but if you are in a hurry.


*edit* scratch the second RH Randall, not worth it.
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Old 05-29-2013, 01:25 PM   #11
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Does it need to be tube amp? If not then check Randalls. The better "back to the roots" one is out of stock at the moment but stock should arrive at early july. The second, unless i am mistaken, is similar to rg75 g3 i owned and it wasnt half bad at all.

http://www.thomann.de/gb/randall_rg_1503_head.htm
http://www.thomann.de/gb/randall_rh150g3.htm

Jet city could be better and more versatile choice overall, but if you are in a hurry.

The Diavlo series might be worth looking out for. So many different versions at all kinds of price points.

Actually considering getting one myself just because they're so affordable.

http://www.randallamplifiers.com/diavlo-series/
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The Diavlo series might be worth looking out for. So many different versions at all kinds of price points.

Actually considering getting one myself just because they're so affordable.

http://www.randallamplifiers.com/diavlo-series/


Good call. Problem is that the new series that Fortin had his hands on are not in stock at thomann yet. There is only RD50 which is part of the old serie and i have no idea how good or bad it is. Actually i dont know about the new either but it seems very promising.
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Old 05-30-2013, 12:47 PM   #13
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sorry, my bad. 6505 212 combo!!!!

our other guitarist uses a 6505+ head and he has a combo at home for his own personal use. it is a 6505+112 combo. Chinese made i do believe.

The 212 combo is USA made although im led to believe it still sounds pretty good with a speaker change.....

I was going to say... THOSE THINGS ARE A BIT OUT OF MY LEAGUE, GO AWAY TROLL! )

I really don't want to use combos, I love the versatility of a head and cab setup, two parts, can swap one out etc
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Old 05-30-2013, 12:52 PM   #14
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okay, so in response to everyone,

yes, I would prefer head+cab, im playing a spider 3 75w atm which is a modelling amp which I no longer want

I would prefer having a single channel amp then just later on buying a distortion pedal to switch from clean to metal but dual channel on the JCA50H is more appealing and probably a cheaper option there.

What kind of metal? I play two main subgenres,

one is thrash, EG. Sylosis, Lamb Of God, that sort of thing, but also a lot of prog, I intend to get an 8-string soon so it'd be awesome if it would work with those things.

Prog bands I like are Animals As Leaders/Periphery/TesseracT/Love a good bit of 'SHUGGAH.

I'll check out randall although I prefer that it's a tube, as I heard one before and I love the sound it gives.
Thanks!
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Old 05-30-2013, 12:54 PM   #15
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wow this randall RD45H looks great! and its tube too, ill consider, thanks
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wow this randall RD45H looks great! and its tube too, ill consider, thanks



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okay, so in response to everyone,

yes, I would prefer head+cab, im playing a spider 3 75w atm which is a modelling amp which I no longer want

I would prefer having a single channel amp then just later on buying a distortion pedal to switch from clean to metal but dual channel on the JCA50H is more appealing and probably a cheaper option there.

What kind of metal? I play two main subgenres,

one is thrash, EG. Sylosis, Lamb Of God, that sort of thing, but also a lot of prog, I intend to get an 8-string soon so it'd be awesome if it would work with those things.

Prog bands I like are Animals As Leaders/Periphery/TesseracT/Love a good bit of 'SHUGGAH.

I'll check out randall although I prefer that it's a tube, as I heard one before and I love the sound it gives.
Thanks!


Just looked up the JCA50 and it doesn't have a clean channel either. Just keep that in mind if you actually want real cleans.
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Just looked up the JCA50 and it doesn't have a clean channel either. Just keep that in mind if you actually want real cleans.


Channels:Normal and Overdrive, foot-switchable with included footswitch

Normal will do for me
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Old 05-30-2013, 01:42 PM   #19
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1w is too little, I forgot to add i play small shows, I'd need in the region of 20-50w I suppose hence a bedroom cab is not really what im after.

I saw the pricetag of the RD45, out of my game if 400 needs to cover head and cab (((((((((
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Old 05-30-2013, 02:06 PM   #20
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Would you be happy with a combo?

Can you go 2nd hand?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Laney-VC5...=item35c80bfb08

Awesome for thrash.

Stick a more "American" voiced pedal in the front to tighten it up for more "Djenty" sounds.

Comes with effectively 4 channels too.

Clean, pushed dirty clean.

Heavy Marshall sound, pushed and boosted Marshall.


Or....


Line 6 Spider Valve

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Line-6-Sp...=item58a06374c2

Great little amp with a wide array of tones.

A few more...

BLackstar HT60 Soloist
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Blackstar...=item257e6c5537

Tubemiester 18
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Hughes-an...=item257e785b04

ENGL Thunder
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Engl-Thun...=item1c3314e818
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