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Old 07-12-2013, 02:55 PM   #61
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Thanks for all the video help, what would be the best go-to hardware to start all this? I'm personally new to the hardware side of things, what would be good for starting up? I want to translate the tone as directly as possible to show the variations so i know that can push things into a big price range.

I don't understand, what do you mean by hardware? Audio recording? Visual? Guitar-related?

I think for demos, you'll want two mics, a dynamic mic for close miking the amp (an SM57 typically) and a large diaphragm condenser mic for giving an in-the-room sound and picking up voice for descriptions and such (an Audio-Technica AT2020 would do the job for a low price)

From there, you'll want to plug into an interface. It kind of depends on how much you have to spend, but for just two mics, a Focusrite Scarlett 2i2 would work fine.

These are all pretty low-priced options, but they'll get the job done. If you do want to spend more on a condenser mic or an interface, there are better options out there for more money, but there's no need to get anything but an SM57. It's a standard on most guitar recordings so it won't be "foreign" to the listener's ears.

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/pro-...ument-vocal-mic
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/pro-...nser-microphone
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/pro-...audio-interface

As for video, I guess a 1080p HD webcam would work fine, but for a camera you can move around wherever without the restrictions of a computer's location, maybe a Canon T3i with a 50mm f/1.8 lens? It'd give better picture quality, too.

http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Wide...4/dp/B006JH8T3S
http://www.amazon.com/Canon-T3i-Dig...m/dp/B004J3V90Y
http://www.amazon.com/Canon-50mm-1-...s/dp/B00007E7JU
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Old 07-17-2013, 12:11 PM   #62
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@Tim_Mop - Sorry forgot to tag you but yeah that was all you there. ha Based on what you want and what you have i think the best would be a Blue/Gold Dually bridge, a silver mid, and a Gold Dually neck. With those coil tapped you'll end up with a lot of dexterity within those three setups, they're available in black, white and cream.

@bassmastmitch - Thanks man that helps a lot, i think we're going to go with the SM57 and we might even get/build an iso box on site just to have for these recordings and demos of other pickups. As far as a camera i think it would be a good idea to still have a soundcloud or something with the demos? I know one of the biggest downfalls to a video is the fact its a lower grade recording mic internally, but personally idk, i'm new! ha
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Old 07-17-2013, 02:28 PM   #63
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^ Awesome, thanks for your help!
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Old 07-17-2013, 03:07 PM   #64
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As far as a camera i think it would be a good idea to still have a soundcloud or something with the demos? I know one of the biggest downfalls to a video is the fact its a lower grade recording mic internally, but personally idk, i'm new! ha

What you'd be doing when you record is you're recording both the video/camera audio (through the camera) and the pure audio coming from the microphones you have set up (SM57 and the room condenser mic, if you choose to use one) at the same time. Once you're done recording, you export the SM57/room mic recording and, using the camera mic as reference, you sync up the audio from the higher quality microphones to the video you took in your video editing software. Does that make sense?

A camera mic could also work as a room microphone, but a large-diaphragm condenser mic would be more realistic.

EDIT: As far as Soundcloud goes, yes, post your recordings there too, because YouTube has unwanted compression artifacts that can affect the sound.
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Old 07-18-2013, 02:57 AM   #65
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Do you really need video with quality audio? I don't think you do, probably a few pics on the before/after of the guitar should be enough but I guess video won't hurt for authenticity.
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Old 07-18-2013, 03:48 AM   #66
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You don't need to have videos, but having a presence on YouTube does make the company more competitive. (Seymour Duncan, EMG, DiMarzio, and Bare Knuckle all have YouTube channels) Ryan Bruce (fluff191 on YouTube) has released a number of Lace pickup demos, and that was the first time I heard anything about Lace.

When it came to upgrading my guitar, this video is what got me to the conclusion of getting a Seymour Duncan JB. You can hear adjectives thrown around about pickups all the time, but being able to hear the differences between models using the same guitar, the same amp, and the same recording conditions/processing, it really gives the customer confidence that they're getting the pickup for the sound they want.
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Old 07-18-2013, 11:01 AM   #67
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Oh ok that makes sense, i gave Don a list this week of a bunch of spec'd out equipment. That duncan demo ou posted is pretty on point with what I was thinking should happen. Basically the stock pickups then all of our pickup models playing the same riff to hear the differences. Plus I really enjoyed the riff he wrote. ha I do like Ryan's videos of our pickups as well I think he puts a lot of fine details into his set ups, we just made him a Deathbucker that he'll probably have up soon.

We're also getting excited here about the possible opening of a custom shop where our other forum writer Alex and Jeff Lace will be modifying all our classic designs and opening up color concepts, so I want to get some feedback from all you awesome players out there so I know EXACTLY what the artists want. We are looking into a full range of color options for Alumitones, more cover options for all our pickups, and even the option to add custom logos to covers. What are you missing from your guitar that you wish you could put in there? We want to know so we can stay on the cutting edge of guitar tone, any thoughts?


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Old 08-06-2013, 08:42 PM   #68
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What are you missing from your guitar that you wish you could put in there? We want to know so we can stay on the cutting edge of guitar tone, any thoughts?



I'd say a neutral non-finished cover would be nice, something that is primed and ready to be painted over. It'd be great to have as an option for customizing a guitar and for the DYI market.
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Old 08-23-2013, 04:14 PM   #69
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Sorry for the gap in posts we are working on some big ideas over here, we are going to be opening an aesthetic custom shop, where you can choose from a variety of covers and even laser engrave your own custom design! Stay tuned as it will be dropping in about a month, once the beta testing all the covers is finalized. Basically, if you have a band or you don't like that one of our humbuckers was locked into one cover style, you can change it to your liking with the same great Lace pickups!

@diabolical So are you saying the unfinished aluminum but still have it wound and wired together? I ask because we are actually going to open up the color options for Alumitones as well, which will fall under the custom shop side where you will be able to choose from at first a predetermined list but as they grow options will as well. Thats a good idea though I'll pass it along as see what they think!
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Old 08-23-2013, 09:15 PM   #70
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You know what would be a neat way to go? Actual designs and textures on the pickups? Like battle-worn, burnt chrome or Tyger designs that Bare Knuckles offers?

I have a pair of Bare Knuckles that was customised with a "scar" effect on the pickup cover to look as though the strings from the guitar had ripped out of the saddles and whipped the pickup covers. If you could create actual textured effects on the pickups, that would be great, after all with laser cutting and processing capabilities these days, this should be a piece of cake.
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Old 08-23-2013, 09:40 PM   #71
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+1 to textured laser etches, that'd be sweet
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Old 08-24-2013, 01:25 AM   #72
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Also, don't just upload them to Youtube. Put them on Soundcloud or something similar so we can actually hear some good quality, uncompressed sound tests.

Same guitar, same amp, same settings, same recording setup, etc, etc. A lot less talking as well, people just want to hear it, not the person demo'ing it. So have an introduction to what you're showing off and then have text during the clips of it with specifics, etc.

Also get a good player, but you probably have guys there who can play well. Nothing worse than a professional demo for a company and the guy can't even play.

Would just like to point out that Soundcloud's audio quality is pretty piss poor - MP3 128, same as a 480p Youtube video.
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Old 08-25-2013, 03:20 PM   #73
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Lately i have become interested in getting a pair of duallys for my Ibanez S420, maybe a Red/Silver for the brigde and a Purple/Emerald for neck, but im not really sure yet. Im looking for a brighter tone, specially in the neck.

Lace seems to have a lot of presence in mexico, i see your pickups in a lot of stores in Guadalajara, specially alumitones and Sensors golds. You even have mexicans in your artist section of your site

I think it would be cool to being able to get your whole selection of pickups (Sensors, duallys, Hemi, etc.) without covers, or with transparent covers.
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Old 08-27-2013, 05:02 PM   #74
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@ragingkitty - That is an awesome idea! I don't think we could get away with taking away from the BKP style but would there be any other textured styles you might be interested in? I'd definitely like to see more options so the more people tell us the more we can try to get new styles going. good call though!


@oneblackened - Would you know of a better way to get the most clarity for something like that? We've even been thinking about trying to make it some sort of midi file at a predetermined "0" setting so you can download and modify the tone by plugging in to your amp with your computer or something of the sort and then EQ'ing to your own sound and you'll have a better opinion over the pickup then. Still very much in the air, but I think its got promise.

@YamiFrankc - I think thats actually a great choice for what you are trying to achieve, the Red/Silver is going to give you great pop and full sound from the bridge, and the neck will sing and have a very good, bright clean. If you wanted to Push-Pull them you're gonna have a bunch of options as well. Just a thought. And transparency is actually one of our coming options! Once we have a solid idea on what new model specs are going in that, the option for transparent covers will become available as well!
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Old 08-27-2013, 05:34 PM   #75
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Transparent covers are a great idea, I am always surprised that they aren't popular. Gibson did a very small run of pickups with clear plastic and colored enamel windings and they looked great.

My laser etch/textured request would be bringing back the Dragon set in a black anodyzed version with the dragon in silver or red. Hell, I'd settle for just reissuing the dragon set in any color.

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Old 08-27-2013, 06:50 PM   #76
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I'm interested in hearing/seeing these videos!

How big are Lace? Is it a few guys or more or what?

In all honesty I'd expect them to have stuff like this already considering everyone seems to know them and because it's an obvious step forward in marketing terms. I've owned a few Lace products and the Golds are the best pickup I've heard, ever. And I'll be checking some of the other ones out too in the future. I guess that's a credit to their reputation and the power of word of mouth.

The website is pretty retro too.
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Old 08-27-2013, 09:45 PM   #77
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Is there any chance that the Deathbucker will be getting the color options (and/or other options you are talking about), too? I'm seriously considering getting one soonish (I have to finish other work on the guitar it would go into, first). The black wouldn't deter me from getting one, but it's not my favorite.

*psst* you should make them in green...
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Old 08-28-2013, 12:34 AM   #78
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Actually im thinking of putting a big 3-way LP style switch to select from Neck,both or Brigde configuration. And adding two mini 3-way switch to select from humbucker, inner coil or outer coil, one for each dually. I think that would give me every configuration possible
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Old 08-28-2013, 09:28 AM   #79
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I'm contemplating a bridge pickup change in my Strat (Fender American Special). It currently is loaded with the stock Texas Specials, which don't get me wrong, are very nice pickups, but I'm thinking something fatter, warmer, and a bit hotter in the bridge is really what I'm after.

To be honest, I'm somewhat of a noob to single coils, as I've spent almost the past decade with humbucker loaded guitars. Since getting the Strat though, I've fell in love with the clarity I get from a driven single coil as opposed to a humbucker. So retaining that clarity will be essential in whatever pickup I choose.

After looking at your products page, I'm thinking either the Burgundy or Purple Sensor is probably the pickup I'm after. I think the Red might be too hot for the tones I'm going for, and I'm guessing it sacrifices some clarity compared to the Burgundy and Purple.

Genre-wise, the main territories I need to cover tonally are Alternative, Progressive/Fusion, and fairly straightforward Rock.
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@Roc8995 - I Agree! unfortunately the dragon as it was is too expensive to keep as a running production model, but with the laser we MIGHT be able to figure something out for the future on an Alumitone again. I'm planning a crazy custom guitar here that'll have our first engravings on an Alumitone like the dragon and if you all like it maybe we'll offer that as a option on alumitones. I'll keep everyone posted on that as soon as i get the body in.

@Mephaphil - (In my best Akon voice) We takin' over! ha I'm not sure the exact amount as we do have out of house workers but its a decent operation. Most of the ideas for videos and audio have come up recently though, since I've only been here a year i can't attest to why but i can tell you they're coming all in due time. glad you like the Golds though I can't wait to get my own set! Retro is cool!

@TJHague - If you like the green we have available already we can make you a custom one in that, if you'd like to contact Alex, his email is Lex@lacemusic.com, he is handling the custom orders and will give you a great run through on what can happen to get you those.

@YamiFrankc - Thats awesome! Send us a link to pictures or something I'd personally love to see it all finished. Turn this thread into some guitar porn. jk

@sjones - I talked to Jeff and even played a set like this myself and we think the best setup would be the Purple-Silver-Emerald pack, or if you want a little bit more backed off bridge the Burgundy would be ok, but I think a purple will give you more of the range you want into the Alt-Rock-Prog stuff, while the Emerald will sing in the neck. Jeff said those are going to be everything the Texas Special is supposed to be. And none of them will lose that clarity you're striving for.
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