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Old 07-13-2013, 01:22 PM   #1
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Question Perfect Metal distortion under 130$

So, I need one perfect Heavy metal distortion pedal, with a nice heavy tone like metallica, good for speed solos, and I want it to be able to combined with a crybaby wah, and produce a nice sound, not sh*tty like I tried to combine it with a Boss Metalcore. And also I want it to be under 130$. I was thinking of the Digitech Metal Distortion, but I prefer to ask you guys for an opinion
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Old 07-13-2013, 01:28 PM   #2
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What amp are you using? The best answer is most certainly going to be saving up to upgrade your amp, but we'll see.
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Old 07-13-2013, 01:30 PM   #3
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No, no my amp is new, I bought it just 2 months ago. It's a peavey envoy 110. There are no distortion channels on it..
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Old 07-13-2013, 01:43 PM   #4
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There are no distortion channels on it..


There's your problem right there.



It has a gain channel....

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Old 07-13-2013, 01:46 PM   #5
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No, no my amp is new, I bought it just 2 months ago. It's a peavey envoy 110. There are no distortion channels on it..

Wut? Yes there is. It's called the lead channel. And it has a pre gain control, turn it up for more distortion (don't max it - you need less gain than you would think, too much gain just makes you sound muddy). It should also have three voicings: modern, classic and high gain. Try them all. I have never played through the amp, I just looked a picture of it. Just learn to use your amp and don't worry about pedals. Also tweak your EQ settings (meaning that don't just scoop your mids and crank bass and treble - start with everything at noon and start tweaking from there).

And Death Metal pedal? Seriously? It doesn't have a gain knob so you can't control the amount of distortion. I wouldn't buy it.

And to get a good tone out of your wah, you need to have it before your distortion, not after it. That's why it sounded crappy. Learn to use your gear before wasting money on new stuff.
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Old 07-13-2013, 01:48 PM   #6
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You need a new amp.

Good distortion comes from the amp. Then you use an overdrive to enhance and tweak it.

Uh... EDIT: http://www.musiciansfriend.com/ampl...tube-technology

Yea, what? There's even a switch that says "High Gain".
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Old 07-13-2013, 01:57 PM   #7
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The amp's overdrive is a piece of shit, there is no way it can be used for metal
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Old 07-13-2013, 02:02 PM   #8
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Are you sure? Switch to your lead channel, tweak your EQ settings, turn up your pre-gain, try different voicings (high gain, classic and modern). I'm sure you'll find some useable tones. And I'm sure it will sound better than Death Metal pedal.

Did you only use your clean channel with cranked gain? You need to switch to your lead channel.

Come back after you have tried some different settings.

Here's a video. Start at 2:29.
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Old 07-13-2013, 02:03 PM   #9
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Then why did you buy it?
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Old 07-13-2013, 02:16 PM   #10
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I don't like much the in-amp distortions, actually. I prefer pedals.
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Old 07-13-2013, 02:21 PM   #11
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And the heavy tone the guy in the video get it's completely different, and there's no way my amp can do the same. I think he have modded his own or it's a different model I don't know. I know that the heaviest tone my amo can reach is a weak overdrive..
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Old 07-13-2013, 02:23 PM   #12
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Can anyone suggest a pedal, as I asked??
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Old 07-13-2013, 02:29 PM   #13
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Can anyone suggest a pedal, as I asked??

No, because what you want is a good tone, not a good pedal. And like everyone else said, metal tone mostly comes from the amp, not the pedal. The pedal is for a bit of extra gain; you shouldn't even need it for a basic crunch sound.
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Old 07-13-2013, 02:31 PM   #14
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You're not going to be able to find a high gain pedal that'll work with a Crybaby. Crybaby's can't take that much gain.

That being said, I'm pretty sure you need to fiddle with your amp a little bit more. And if you want all of your tone to come from pedals, why'd you buy an Envoy and not go for something like a Roland Jazz Chorus or something?

Wrst_EDIT_Evr: Also, what guitar are you using?

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Old 07-13-2013, 02:35 PM   #15
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Peavey Envoy, which I have, is basically a downsized less powerful Peavey Bandit. Unless there is something wrong with the amp it should have a SHIT-TON of preamp gain available. I think it has decent distortion channel itself but what holds it back is the 10" piece of shit speaker. No pedal is going to improve that, the sound is still going through and butchered by it. Sorry, what you really need is a new amp, not a new pedal. Or start modding it and add external cab jack, an idea I have been toying around myself. Turning it into a lunchbox head basically.
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Old 07-13-2013, 02:37 PM   #16
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Can anyone suggest a pedal, as I asked??

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Old 07-13-2013, 02:43 PM   #17
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Hmm, I don't have money for a ney amp, so maybe I shall try modding the amp. Emm, is there a good wah pedal that can be combined with heavy distortion? And not too expencive of course!
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Old 07-13-2013, 02:49 PM   #18
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Ibanez Weeping Demon and Morley Bad Horsie are what people are probably going to tell you. I can't say from experience.
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Old 07-13-2013, 02:53 PM   #19
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If you can track down an old Zoom Tri metal i swear down that has to be the most crushing metal distortion pedal i ever owned.

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Old 07-13-2013, 02:53 PM   #20
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