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Old 07-15-2013, 04:33 PM   #1
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No future for metal?

Bear in mind i'm nowhere near old enough to speak about this as if i was there (I wasn't) but remember when Kill 'Em All was released? when Metallica got big? when Megadeth released Rust in Peace? Am I the only one that thinks that we will never have moments like those again in metal history?
No band that future generations (like me) can listen to and say "Even though this album came out about 10 years before i was born it still kicks the ass of most metal music released today!" Will there ever be another Big 4? With all these subgenres that are out these days there's not really any "new movement" that can start...just my opinion here
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Old 07-15-2013, 04:34 PM   #2
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Bear in mind i'm nowhere near old enough to speak about this as if i was there (I wasn't) but remember when Kill 'Em All was released? when Metallica got big? when Megadeth released Rust in Peace? Am I the only one that thinks that we will never have moments like those again in metal history?
No band that future generations (like me) can listen to and say "Even though this album came out about 10 years before i was born it still kicks the ass of most metal music released today!" Will there ever be another Big 4? With all these subgenres that are out these days there's not really any "new movement" that can start...just my opinion here

Everyone hated them for "getting big".


Maybe you should go to the Metal forum.


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Old 07-15-2013, 04:35 PM   #3
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Heavy metal will never be as big as it used to be.
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Old 07-15-2013, 04:39 PM   #4
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Old 07-15-2013, 04:40 PM   #5
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Heavy metal will never be as big as it used to be.

I could replace "Heavy Metal" with most genres, and the statement would still be true.

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You know, in general, there's more new Metal than ever before. Yes, there's not a dominating movement as much as many new subgenres. However, Metal (like all music really) is much more easy to find than ever before. Go on bandcamp, and you can find several excellent metal EPs/albums (can't guarantee good album production though) for free or for very low cost. People act like, "Oh, hey...there's no band/movement for me to look back and say it changed things". Well, my response is..."So what?". Metal is evolving in many different new and exciting directions. In fact, heavy music in general is doing so. What's not to like?
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Old 07-15-2013, 04:41 PM   #7
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Yea, some pretty awesome albums have been released in our time.
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Old 07-15-2013, 04:44 PM   #8
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Old 07-15-2013, 04:44 PM   #9
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Such is the digital age. There's so much choice, no one genre outside of Pop is gonna have that again.

But that's a good thing, embrace it.
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Such is the digital age. There's so much choice, no one genre outside of Pop is gonna have that again.

But that's a good thing, embrace it.

Heh, electronic music (or EDM, whatever the proper term for it is...) is a prime example. There's so many different genres/subgenres/sub-sub/etc. But that type of music hasn't suffered for it. As I understand it, fans of that type of music enjoy the freshness and creativity that such constant musical evolution has brought.
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Old 07-15-2013, 04:49 PM   #11
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Well metalcore is the new thrash, in terms of it being the it thing to do in metal you also need to remember that there are more bands competing for the same crowd. So give it a few years and every one will like the same fouror five bands.
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Old 07-15-2013, 04:54 PM   #12
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Kill 'Em All and Rust In Peace are pretty boring albums, to be honest. The only reason Kill 'Em All is well known is because it was the first full Thrash album, however, there was already more enthusiastic bands out there by that time releasing EP's.

As for today's Metal scene; we have Antediluvian, Mitochondrion, Sacriphyx, Csjethe, Kathaaria, Inquisition, Dark Funeral, Pharaoh, Wodensthrone, Drudkh, Peste Noir, Ras Algethi, Mare Cognitum, Celtes Des Ghoules, Dodecahedron, The Chasm, Weapon, Pallbearer, Procession, Fall Of Idols, SubRosa, Scald, Warning, Nokturnal Mortum, Falkenbach, Vektor, Evergrey, Cynic, While Heaven Wept, Atlantean Kodex, Ahab, Kamelot, Gris, Jesu, Isis, Rosetta, Fanisk, Dosengel, In Solitude, Solstice, and a mass slew of other bands that would take me forever to list. We have hundreds of amazing Metal music released every year. Even for the people who want stuff more accessible we have tons of music. I don't feel the need to have some little specific "movement" that everyone and their mother can jump on and call it the new Maiden or Pantera or what-the-****-ever they like. I just want amazing music and that's what I'm getting.
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Heh, electronic music (or EDM, whatever the proper term for it is...) is a prime example. There's so many different genres/subgenres/sub-sub/etc. But that type of music hasn't suffered for it. As I understand it, fans of that type of music enjoy the freshness and creativity that such constant musical evolution has brought.

Yeah, EDM is great and you can quickly tell from listening approximately what year any given track came out, since the stylistic changes are fairly distinct yet all completely listenable. It's a good thing.
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Heh, electronic music (or EDM, whatever the proper term for it is...) is a prime example. There's so many different genres/subgenres/sub-sub/etc. But that type of music hasn't suffered for it. As I understand it, fans of that type of music enjoy the freshness and creativity that such constant musical evolution has brought.

EDM is really where I'd look to for an understanding of how underground music works. Because really what I think we're seeing happen in the industry now means is that genres and scenes are gonna be smaller, but we'll have more of them.

What I'm gonna be interested in seeing is whether scenes that are surviving now die out like they do in EDM as a result of this and how metal and rock heads deal with this, because obviously these musics have been around for decades. EDM fans are used to it, there's almost a common understanding in a scene that it could go under at any point (Unless you like House bangers or Trance or whatever - I'm talking about smaller scenes). It's expected that scenes will die - just as Jungle and UK Garage have, even though UK Garage produced hugely commercial successful Number 1 Hits.

I dunno, it's just a thought. Obviously there's periods where the general consensus will be "Oh, most Metal sucks nowadays", but I've never seen any discussion where metal fans have had to seriously consider whether it's dead. Buried. Not worth saving. Because that happens with smaller scenes and that's where we're all headed regardless of what music you like.
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but I've never seen any discussion where metal fans have had to seriously consider whether it's dead. Buried. Not worth saving. Because that happens with smaller scenes and that's where we're all headed regardless of what music you like.


With the way things are going, that won't happen for a good while.

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