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Old 07-15-2013, 08:36 PM   #1
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Question Getting into Jazz

Hey UG Pit,

Out of nowhere, I've realised I want to listen to some Jazz. Besides some more "jazzy" tracks by Ray Charles and Frank Sinatra, a few stuff by Nat King Cole and some ocasional random Jazz Fusion, I don't really know much about it.

Any ideas to where I should start?
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Old 07-15-2013, 08:37 PM   #2
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Miles Davis, Coltrane, the list could go on....
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Old 07-15-2013, 08:38 PM   #3
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1. stop referring to things as "jazzy"

2. Charlie Parker


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Miles Davis, Coltrane, the list could go on....

It could go on, but it should not start at Coltrane.
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1. stop referring to things as "jazzy"
Hey, that can be a very useful adjective.
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Hey, that can be a very useful adjective.

Extremely useful for inducing cringe.
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Extremely useful for inducing cringe.
It's better than "sounds kinda classical and stuf."
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Old 07-15-2013, 08:42 PM   #7
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ahmad jamal, mingus, ornette coleman seem like a few okay starting points


and davis, coltrane, the list could go on..
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You can wank for free, who needs Jazz?
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Miles Davis, Coltrane, the list could go on....


Thought about those names, and I guess they're probably the most obvious ones to start. If you have any more suggestions, please do.

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stop referring to things as "jazzy"
I guess I should just write "something that sound similar enough to Jazz to be referenced as Jazz but really isn't Jazz", then.

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Listen to a few interpretations of the standards like Autumn Leaves, Moanin', Bag's Groove, My Favorite Things, and etc. If you find one cover/interpretation you like look more into that band/artist.

Here's a really good OST with some really good covers of the standards. Some are originals and 1 or 2 aren't Jazz though.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1meK...2A7E6075243ACB6
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Old 07-15-2013, 08:54 PM   #12
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ahmad jamal, mingus, ornette coleman seem like a few okay starting points


and davis, coltrane, the list could go on..
Think I've heard Ornette Coleman somewhere...

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for old time's sake I highly recommend visiting a jazz section in one of the few remaining book/cd stores and listening to whatever is featured on their headphone thingy. Then buy at least one thing and sit down with an italian soda and five different foreign 20 dollar magazines you're not buying

analog stuff 1996-2008 never forget (sky fistbump)

edit - unless you actually have important things to do
More important than drinking an italian soda? Who does?!

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Listen to a few interpretations of the standards like Autumn Leaves, Moanin', Bag's Groove, My Favorite Things, and etc. If you find one cover/interpretation you like look more into that band/artist.

Here's a really good OST with some really good covers of the standards. Some are originals and 1 or 2 aren't Jazz though.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1meK...2A7E6075243ACB6
I'll give it a go then.

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You can wank for free, who needs Jazz?
Wanking gets old and boring pretty fast.
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Wanking gets old and boring pretty fast.

What on earth are you talking about?
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Old 07-15-2013, 09:18 PM   #14
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Coleman Hawkins and Lester Young are great. They're a good way to get into more complex Bop stuff because they influenced Charlie Parker.

Benny Goodman, Artie Shaw, and Chick Webb are great for Swing.

Charlie Christian, Joe Pass and Wes Montgomery for jazz guitar.

Louis Armstrong is mind boggling, so listen to that.

Sidney Bechet, King Oliver and Buddy Bolden are some of the first jazz players.

Duke Ellington, Charles Mingus, Jelly Roll Morton, Herbie Hancock are some great jazz composers.

Fats Waller, Art Tatum and Thelonious Monk are jazz piano.

So that should keep you busy. I'm leaving people out of course, like a Dexter Gordon, Dizzy Gillespie...
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Hey UG Pit,

Out of nowhere, I've realised I want to listen to some Jazz. Besides some more "jazzy" tracks by Ray Charles and Frank Sinatra, a few stuff by Nat King Cole and some ocasional random Jazz Fusion, I don't really know much about it.

Any ideas to where I should start?
Sure, get Swing Shift by Rik Emmett.

It contains at least one song of all the different forms of Jazz. From Bebop, Swing, Acid, Waltz, Cool, Free, Acoustic, Lounge, Smooth, etc...

You will never need another Jazz album...

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Old 07-15-2013, 09:24 PM   #16
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Try some Dizzy Gillespie.. get his live album 'At Newport' if you can
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Old 07-15-2013, 09:26 PM   #17
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What's all this jazz about?

I'm not sure how funny that was...
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Old 07-15-2013, 09:28 PM   #19
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Coleman Hawkins and Lester Young are great. They're a good way to get into more complex Bop stuff because they influenced Charlie Parker.

Benny Goodman, Artie Shaw, and Chick Webb are great for Swing.

Charlie Christian, Joe Pass and Wes Montgomery for jazz guitar.

Louis Armstrong is mind boggling, so listen to that.

Sidney Bechet, King Oliver and Buddy Bolden are some of the first jazz players.

Duke Ellington, Charles Mingus, Jelly Roll Morton, Herbie Hancock are some great jazz composers.

Fats Waller, Art Tatum and Thelonious Monk are jazz piano.

So that should keep you busy. I'm leaving people out of course, like a Dexter Gordon, Dizzy Gillespie...
Finally, someone gets it right.

Listing the more advanced jazz artists for your vanity / "street cred" is so counterproductive. Hopefully PrimusFan can come in with that story about John Coltrane not listening to John Coltrane to learn.

If you don't get the essential language and philosophy of jazz, aka the guys in my quote, all that stuff about Coltrane and Ornette Coleman will fly right over your head.
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Old 07-15-2013, 09:32 PM   #20
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If you want something more accessable with vocals, Buena Vista Social Club is definitly worth listening to, swinging cuban jazz if the name didn't give it away. Check out their self-titled album.

If you want something a bit edgier and more artsy then I'd highly recommend Time Out by Dave Brubeck Quartet, a legendary record with tunes you may already be familiar with and not even know it. If nothing else you must listen to the song 'Blue Rondo a la Turk', truly brilliant tune inspired by Turkish musicians, written in 9/8 and yet handled seemingly effortlessly.
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