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Old 07-21-2013, 09:11 AM   #1
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best "gibson" pickups for high-gain metal?

I bought a gibson les paul dc the other day that the guy put emg select pickups in it that I'm not that thrilled with. I'd like to go with gibson chrome top pickups, and burstbuckers were reccomended to me, but I'm curious to hear what the masses here at ug have to say about it.

I also have the stock pickups which I believe are 490/498, but they look pretty beat up and the guy said there may have been a problem with the bridge pickup. so not sure I want to go that route.

I've got an acoustic for sale on consignment at a local music shop... when it sells he can order and professionally install any pickup set I want at a nice discount... I play thrash metal and pop punk(basically metal in the major scale) lots of gain scooped mids kinda thing.

So whats the best Gibson pickup for me?
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Old 07-21-2013, 09:18 AM   #2
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If you want to stick with Gibson, the 500T. But I would go with Duncan or Dimarzio because of price and selection. Gibson pickups are expensive for what they are.

What type of "high gain"?
What amp are you using?
Do you want it to do useable cleans also or only distortion?
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Old 07-21-2013, 11:13 AM   #4
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I've got a couple amps. The halfstack is an "Acoustic" lead series solid state head ran through a 4x12 cab. I also have an old Ibanez tone blaster 2x12 combo which is also solid state. I had a Valveking for years and bought the acoustic head as a back up... honestly the acoustic sounds better to me, and everyone else that heard them, so I recently sold the valveking and used some of that money to buy the gibson.

Most of what I play is metal and pop punk like I said. I play with a group of friends that call ourselves a band, and play mainly originals... To directly answer your question yes I'd like use-able clean tones, but mainly play with distortion. not sure what you mean by "type of high gain"?
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Old 07-21-2013, 11:31 AM   #5
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Why do you specifically want Gibson pickups? You'd be far better off going for a different brand, particularly for really high-gain stuff. Probably get more value for what you're paying that way too.
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Old 07-21-2013, 11:43 AM   #7
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Why do you specifically want Gibson pickups? You'd be far better off going for a different brand, particularly for really high-gain stuff. Probably get more value for what you're paying that way too.

Try a Gibson 500T. Then you'll understand why people pay money for them.
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Old 07-21-2013, 11:44 AM   #8
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Old 07-21-2013, 11:56 AM   #9
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I've got a couple amps. The halfstack is an "Acoustic" lead series solid state head ran through a 4x12 cab. I also have an old Ibanez tone blaster 2x12 combo which is also solid state. I had a Valveking for years and bought the acoustic head as a back up... honestly the acoustic sounds better to me, and everyone else that heard them, so I recently sold the valveking and used some of that money to buy the gibson.

Most of what I play is metal and pop punk like I said. I play with a group of friends that call ourselves a band, and play mainly originals... To directly answer your question yes I'd like use-able clean tones, but mainly play with distortion. not sure what you mean by "type of high gain"?

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For the price you'll pay for Gibson PUs, you can snag a used Laney VH100R if you want the high Mids (don't scoop) or used Bogner Alchemist if you prefer the low Mids.
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Old 07-21-2013, 12:30 PM   #10
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I've got a couple amps. The halfstack is an "Acoustic" lead series solid state head ran through a 4x12 cab. I also have an old Ibanez tone blaster 2x12 combo which is also solid state. I had a Valveking for years and bought the acoustic head as a back up... honestly the acoustic sounds better to me, and everyone else that heard them, so I recently sold the valveking and used some of that money to buy the gibson.

Most of what I play is metal and pop punk like I said. I play with a group of friends that call ourselves a band, and play mainly originals... To directly answer your question yes I'd like use-able clean tones, but mainly play with distortion. not sure what you mean by "type of high gain"?


do you really need high gain for pop-punk though?

I'd say The Gibson Iommi pickups they are a little dark for cleans but the distortion is great for all types of high-gain metal, I have them in my Iommi SG and play everything from Sabbath to Pantera, they deliver. They come in chrome or black chrome, and are passive, a little pricey but worth it imo.

but like the other guys said, get a new amp, I recently got a Peavy 6505+112 and it made a much more drastic change on my tone, than any pickup change ever could,, one of my buddies has an Acoustic amp and it sucks, distortion wise, but all he plays is a lot of Chili Peppers. Remember EVH got that sound from a regular Gibson PAF pickup, get you a Marshall or something, also look into small watt tube amps, my roomate had this Blackstar that was like 1W tube combo that was loud as **** and had nice high gain. Unless you want Pantera type clipping tube is what you want, you are never going to get the high-gain sound you want on Solid-State. There are some pretty cheap tube combos out their.
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Old 07-21-2013, 12:36 PM   #11
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A new amp is inevitably in my future, both my amps are practice amps imo.... but they do sound good enough for now. When the right deal comes my way is when I'll jump for the right amp.

I would like to put gibson pickups in it but its not a requirement since people seem to think gibson pickups are overpriced and suck... I do want passive chrome tops though... any pickup combo recommendations that meet that criteria are welcomed. thanks
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A new amp is inevitably in my future, both my amps are practice amps imo.... but they do sound good enough for now. When the right deal comes my way is when I'll jump for the right amp.

I would like to put gibson pickups in it but its not a requirement since people seem to think gibson pickups are overpriced and suck... I do want passive chrome tops though... any pickup combo recommendations that meet that criteria are welcomed. thanks


Gibson pickups don't suck (especially the 500T which is great) but there are better pickups for the price by companies that specialise in just pickups rather than guitars as well such as DiMarzio.

If you are definitely planning on getting a new, better amp, then yeah you'll want new pickups at some point anyway so you might as well now. Only if the amp is a decent upgrade and not for one which is slightly better. In that case, by all means get the amp but be warned; the pickups won't make much of a difference to your sound.
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Old 07-21-2013, 12:48 PM   #13
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I don't think Gibson pickups suck at all, but when buying Seymour Duncan and Dimarzio make pickups that are just as good or better for $50 less when buying new

Like I said if you want Gibson the 500T is what I suggest.
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I have a Burstbucker 2 in my Gibson in the bridge position and it sounds really good! Good for cleans, overdrives and distortion!
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Old 07-21-2013, 01:32 PM   #15
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When I tried the 500T I found it to be too fuzzy for my liking. If you are going for an articulate distortion as opposed to fuzz, I would say DiMarzio is the way to go.
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gibson pickups are absolutely fine, even pretty good, for stock pickups (especially when you consider how few other guitar companies have the guts to put paf-output bridge pickups into their guitars that would suit them).

At the prices they charge for them as retrofits, though, no thanks.
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I once had a Les Paul Classic (no shit, hence the name...) which came with the 496R/500T pickups and I must say that the 500T isn't bad at all. Not as good as the crunchlab or Bareknuckles (imo), but for high gain purposes only, I'd definatly get one over a JB, custom custom or invaders.
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