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Old 10-01-2013, 05:13 PM   #81
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Old 10-01-2013, 05:25 PM   #82
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these are my predictions for overall standings

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Old 10-01-2013, 05:28 PM   #83
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I traded Niemi last year to Thrash for Halak and some other stuff. Halak ended up getting injured and Niemi had a vezina nomination season
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Old 10-01-2013, 05:47 PM   #84
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Old 10-01-2013, 05:51 PM   #85
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Fair enough.

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Old 10-01-2013, 05:54 PM   #86
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Well that's all I really got for centers other than Henrik. Sorry then

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Old 10-01-2013, 05:58 PM   #87
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The Flames scored plenty of goals last year. They just couldn't stop them. Kind of like how the trifecta of turnover that you there in Pittsburgh can't stop turning pucks over. Oh they score. That's great. They're still just as much of a negative as they are a positive.



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Not sure what the Kessel comment has to do with my post.

it wasn't related at all
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Old 10-01-2013, 06:00 PM   #88
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Old 10-01-2013, 06:15 PM   #89
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Player has puck in offensive zone. Player loses puck in offensive zone. Other team carries it down to defensive zone and the puck is frozen by the goalie. New line comes on to take the defensive zone faceoff, goal is scored.

What stat accounts for such scenarios?

http://stats.hockeyanalysis.com/201...me=2012-13_r3s1

Oh look Malkin and Neal have 2x as many offensive zone starts as defensive zone starts. I wonder if that impacts there GF/GA stats? Oh probably not.

Edit: Oh wait those GF/GA aren't even playoff stats. We're not discussing their regular season performance.

Edit2: Oh jeez Malkin and Letang are just so great

http://www.nhl.com/ice/playerstats....rtssPlayerStats

Oh look Letang does nothing but give the puck away. And he's a dman? He should probably keep playing rover. Clearly it's beneficial to his team. I'll keep watching him make bad pinches and cost his team goals. It's usually either that or he actually makes a tape to tape pass to a player on the other team.

Malkin is 47% on the faceoff dot with 70 offensive zone starts at 44 defensive zone starts through three rounds. That must be doing his team wonders.

http://stats.hockeyanalysis.com/201...me=2012-13_r3s1
http://stats.hockeyanalysis.com/201...me=2012-13_r2s1
http://stats.hockeyanalysis.com/201...me=2012-13_r1s1

I hate that you had to devolve this into an argument of statistics as if any of them really have much merit. Would it be more clear to you if I make a nice highlight reel of Letang-Malkin-Neal turnovers the next time they get embarrassed in the playoffs?
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Old 10-01-2013, 06:35 PM   #90
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Old 10-01-2013, 06:42 PM   #91
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Player has puck in offensive zone. Player loses puck in offensive zone. Other team carries it down to defensive zone and the puck is frozen by the goalie. New line comes on to take the defensive zone faceoff, goal is scored.

What stat accounts for such scenarios?

http://stats.hockeyanalysis.com/201...me=2012-13_r3s1

Oh look Malkin and Neal have 2x as many offensive zone starts as defensive zone starts. I wonder if that impacts there GF/GA stats? Oh probably not.


Well, GF/GA are actual terrible stats for that exact reason, I used them because I figured they'd be easier for you to grasp. In the last 2 years 5v5 (Only including players with 1500+ minutes played over that period):

Malkin is 13th overall in Corsi%, and Neal is 18th.

Malkin is 8th overall in Corsi For %, and Neal is 9th.

Malkin is 31st out of 137 in Corsi Against %, and Neal is 37th (link)

Malkin and Neal aren't shut down forwards, and they are used extensively in the offensive zone because they can score goals more there, but they aren't "just as much of a negative as they are a positive". They actually dominate play and keep it in the offensive zone.

Tangentially, looking at that table, jesus is Bozal awful. Poor Kessel

edit: using statistics from a small sample size (such as one playoff series or playoff year) is patently ridiculous. you can't be serious. also, I think Malkin has a trophy or two that speak to his ability in the playoffs.
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Old 10-01-2013, 06:53 PM   #92
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this is weird. no lockout first?

SHED you guys should use zone-start adjusted numbers or Ronald the Leader is just gonna keep bitching about usage
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Have zone-adjusted stats ever been shown to be a good predictor of anything?
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Old 10-01-2013, 07:02 PM   #94
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Game starts at 5, but accounting for whatever the name if this shit band is and Montreal/Toronto former player blowage it should start in about 45?
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Old 10-01-2013, 07:07 PM   #95
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Have zone-adjusted stats ever been shown to be a good predictor of anything?

one method of doing it explained

I've always kinda found the traditional "cut off the first ten seconds of the shift" zone start to be pretty arbitrary myself, may as well just use zone entries at that point instead
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Old 10-01-2013, 07:11 PM   #96
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So I guess my local tv schedule doesn't want me to watch the Canadiens-Leafs game. Kind of frustrating.
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Old 10-01-2013, 07:11 PM   #97
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don't worry they've started the pregame so you have like an hour to find a stream before puck drops
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Old 10-01-2013, 07:12 PM   #98
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Let's hope this season opener is better than last years which was one of the worst games I have ever seen.

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Old 10-01-2013, 07:15 PM   #99
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