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Old 10-02-2013, 01:27 PM   #1
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What to do when chords dont fit any major/minor key?

There's this song that goes B-E on verse and D-G on chorus. Those chords dont fit on any major/minor key so... how do I find the key of it?
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Old 10-02-2013, 01:49 PM   #2
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B-E is a V-I in E
D - G is a V-I in G.
It's a key change from the verse to the chorus.
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Old 10-02-2013, 02:12 PM   #3
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Old 10-02-2013, 03:24 PM   #4
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It could be in the key of E all the time and just use bIII and bVII chords (borrowed from the parallel minor). Or then it could modulate. But without knowing the song we can't help. Using non-diatonic chords is really usual.

But remember that I don't know which song you are talking about so my analysis may be way off. Listen to the song. Which of the chords feels like the key center? When you play that chord, it feels like resolved, like "home". It may be that the chorus and verse are in different keys. Modulating is really common too.
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Old 10-03-2013, 10:30 AM   #5
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Song is this:



I dont think theres a key change since they have a distinct sound that I dont hear here... it just sounds like a standard pop tune to me and thats why Im confused.

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Old 10-04-2013, 03:54 PM   #6
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The song is in B major. The chord progression for the verse is B-E-B-E-B-E-D-B (I-IV-I-IV-I-IV-bIII-I). And then there is a modulation to D major (chorus). The progression in the chorus is D-G-D-G-C-Bm-G-Bmaj7 - D: I-IV-I-IV-bVII-vi-IV B: I (the last chord of the chorus is again in B major - the two last chords could also be thought as being in B major - G major would be the bVI chord in B that is also very common and it kind of "prepares" the key change back to B major). It's a pretty "smooth" modulation because the relative minor of D major is Bm which is the parallel minor of B major and maybe that's why you didn't notice it.
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Old 10-04-2013, 05:30 PM   #7
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You find the key by listening to the resolution, not by counting chords and looking for accidentals.

To solo, you start with the scale of the home key, and modify it to avoid clashes as the chords change.
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Old 10-06-2013, 04:38 PM   #8
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