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Old 01-27-2014, 12:17 PM   #21
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This sums up my feelings pretty well.

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Perhaps keep all the versions of the tabs but make them available through a separate page? Or just put links to the other versions at the top of the highest-rated version? Take suggestions on best versions of certain tabs from the UG community?

I'm not sure I like the idea of streamlining everything around the highest-rated tab, though. If you mean only the highest-rated version would show up in results, and you would have to click on that tab just to see the other versions, then definitely not. More than once I've found tabs where the highest rated version is vastly inferior to more modestly rated versions. Yet my single one-star vote against the high rating and my five-star vote for the low rating do absolutely nothing to change the ratings enough to reflect how I feel they should be ranked.

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Make the "difficulty" and "tuning" options mandatory. It really bothers me when I search for a tab and would like a song in the same tuning as my guitar, and then I have to check through every single tab to find one.

I also think this is a great idea. I'm not as concerned about difficulty, but tuning definitely.
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Old 01-27-2014, 01:10 PM   #22
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Do you interesting to get additional meta information about tabs and search by him:
  1. tone (C major, C# major, Db major, etc.)
  2. techniques (slide up, slide down, hammer-on, pull-off, etc.)
  3. BPM (beats per minute)
  4. time signature (3/2, 2/4, 6/8, 4/4, etc.)
  5. main strumming ("D,UDUD,UDU", etc.)
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Old 01-27-2014, 01:32 PM   #23
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Do you interesting to get additional meta information about tabs and search by him:
  1. tone (C major, C# major, Db major, etc.)
  2. techniques (slide up, slide down, hammer-on, pull-off, etc.)
  3. BPM (beats per minute)
  4. time signature (3/2, 2/4, 6/8, 4/4, etc.)
  5. main strumming ("D,UDUD,UDU", etc.)
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Strumming. YES for some songs would be really nice.

Tone - I have no idea what i'm playing in whenever I play, it might teach me if it was included. So sure why not.
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Old 01-27-2014, 01:53 PM   #24
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Do you interesting to get additional meta information about tabs and search by him:
  1. tone (C major, C# major, Db major, etc.)
  2. techniques (slide up, slide down, hammer-on, pull-off, etc.)
  3. BPM (beats per minute)
  4. time signature (3/2, 2/4, 6/8, 4/4, etc.)
  5. main strumming ("D,UDUD,UDU", etc.)
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A, C, and D would be the most helpful for me, but the other two could be useful to others who are still learning to play.
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Old 01-27-2014, 01:54 PM   #25
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There is a lack of vader tabs
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Old 01-27-2014, 01:55 PM   #26
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Yes and no.
I find a lot of tabs are wrong(even if it's just a note or two, it matters), and it almost seems like tabs with multiple versions are just copies of one tab(regardless of if it's wrong) with maybe a change or two instead of something new or different.
really evident when a song has 3+ tabs all with the same mistakes.

that being said I find most tabs to be really helpful, especially when I'm having a problem learning a riff on my own. And even more so with songs that have multiple tab versions as they probably all do something different and it's nice to figure out which way you find most comfortable so easily

I think though if I were to improve the tabs in any way, I'd make it so there couldn't be multiple versions of the exact same tab. if there's going to be a version 2 or 3, It should be done significantly different or fix the mistakes in a different one(at which point the wrong tab should be removed), or offer a different way to play the song all together.

EDIT: I also think you should be able to flag a tab as 'incorrect' or something and be able to submit a correction to it which would get reviewed and then either implemented to the original tab or rejected.
Would cut down on a lot of the alternate tabs that are just corrections or better versions of another
EDIT2: and maybe even have a log of corrections that have been made on a tab that people can see if they want to so the original posters work is never undermined. It will still be there in its original glory, but the main tab people will see will be the one with corrections


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Do you interesting to get additional meta information about tabs and search by him:
  1. tone (C major, C# major, Db major, etc.)
  2. techniques (slide up, slide down, hammer-on, pull-off, etc.)
  3. BPM (beats per minute)
  4. time signature (3/2, 2/4, 6/8, 4/4, etc.)
  5. main strumming ("D,UDUD,UDU", etc.)
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I don't think that this kind of information is useful (except perhaps the key). I feel that the average person should be able to pick up the strumming pattern of the song and know how the time and tempo feels especially if it is a song that is specifically being searched for. There are also many ways to play a lick, one person may choose to use hammer-ons and pull-offs and another may choose to pick everything depending on what is easiest for that person. I don't think a tab should be placed in a technique category just because "the tab says so so it must be done that way" because if often isn't the case.
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Old 01-27-2014, 02:27 PM   #27
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Old 01-27-2014, 03:36 PM   #28
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I do interesting the key.
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Old 01-27-2014, 05:31 PM   #29
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There are some songs that have tabs much, much better than others. There are some tabs that I think can be eliminated for the convenience of the user trying to learn the song.
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Old 01-27-2014, 07:36 PM   #30
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1. I don't really know. As a tabber, I rarely look up other tabs. I always figure out songs for myself. But if it counts, I'm very satisfied with the tabs I put out.
Though I always check to see if there is an accurate version similar to what I have (though almost all of the time, I submit the only version), but 8/10 times there isn't.

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I like having a bit of variety in the tabs because they are rarely 100% accurate so it's good to be able to reference another tab.

Get rid of 1-2 star rated tabs unless they are the only submission for that song.
I agree with this. Multiple versions sometimes give me a better idea of where to start if I'm having trouble. Except if they're rated between 1-2 stars. If they're rightly rated so, they're kind of useless.

Edit: That additional stuff doesn't matter to me. Maybe just b and e. I've helped people learn a tab by using the e method.
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Old 01-27-2014, 07:54 PM   #31
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Do you interesting to get additional meta information about tabs and search by him:
  1. tone (C major, C# major, Db major, etc.)
  2. techniques (slide up, slide down, hammer-on, pull-off, etc.)
  3. BPM (beats per minute)
  4. time signature (3/2, 2/4, 6/8, 4/4, etc.)
  5. main strumming ("D,UDUD,UDU", etc.)
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i do interesting in him
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Old 01-27-2014, 08:01 PM   #32
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Do you interesting to get additional meta information about tabs and search by him:
  1. tone (C major, C# major, Db major, etc.)
  2. techniques (slide up, slide down, hammer-on, pull-off, etc.)
  3. BPM (beats per minute)
  4. time signature (3/2, 2/4, 6/8, 4/4, etc.)
  5. main strumming ("D,UDUD,UDU", etc.)
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Time signature would be an absolutely fantastic addition.
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Old 01-27-2014, 08:11 PM   #33
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And to the people saying they don't want multiple versions of the same tab: Really, if anyone is to blame, it's the fault of not enough voters in the TPA page. If there were, it wouldn't be posted in the first place. Maybe suggest to get more people active up in there. I'm aware you need 3 accepted contributions to access that page though so idk. Just airing my thoughts here.
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I need more accepted contributions. I've only got two. They should later the requirement for voting to two.
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Old 01-27-2014, 08:30 PM   #35
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I only ever use the chords rather than actual tabs.
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Old 01-27-2014, 09:08 PM   #36
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Do you interesting to get additional meta information about tabs and search by him:
  1. tone (C major, C# major, Db major, etc.)
  2. techniques (slide up, slide down, hammer-on, pull-off, etc.)
  3. BPM (beats per minute)
  4. time signature (3/2, 2/4, 6/8, 4/4, etc.)
  5. main strumming ("D,UDUD,UDU", etc.)
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That would be a good addition, but I don't know how you would want people to change previously submitted tabs if you in fact want them changed. Seems like a good idea though.



Edit: also, love the addition of the tab player
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Old 01-28-2014, 04:23 AM   #37
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There is a serious lack in bass tabs. that's all I have to say
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Old 01-28-2014, 06:15 AM   #38
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There is a serious lack in bass tabs. that's all I have to say

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Old 01-28-2014, 09:41 AM   #39
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Thanks for all the responses so far. Let me do a round up:

1. There is a needs for meta data (strumming, key, time signature, techniques - in the order of importance)

2. There is no problem with the tabs' quality, except that:
a. we need to clean out 1,2 rated tabs
b. or tabs that being reported as 'inaccurate'

3. There is some problem with the tabs' format: we need better defined rules on how to properly format tabs*

* When I say tabs I mean both tabs and chords

Is it correct? Did I miss anything?
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Old 01-28-2014, 09:48 AM   #40
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Let me ask you about a couple other things:

When you say there is, in general, no major problems with the current UG setup can you say that UG successfully covers all your guitar needs? Meaning, when you want to learn a song or the song - Ultimate Guitar is all you need and that's the only active window in your browser during song learning process?

I want you to think outside of the current UG setup. Is there something that we don't have but would be actually helpful and useful? Something that would save your time and make your learning process more effective?

*random idea: wouldn't it be useful to have youtube video attached to each song so you can hear that song right now from tab page?*
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