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Old 03-10-2014, 05:45 PM   #1
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Amp simulator

Hi,

I am looking for a new amp simulator and as I don't know much about it, I need some help.
I already have a Berhinger V-Amp 3 and I find it very useful. I mainly use it for guitar recording on my computer.
However, I think it is kind of cheap and I would like change it for something better.

Can you recommand me something, please ?

(My budget is around 300€/400$)
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Old 03-10-2014, 06:21 PM   #2
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http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/PodHD/

Line 6 Pod HD Desktop model. Get it while that price lasts, I think they're discontinuing it.
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Old 03-10-2014, 06:36 PM   #3
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Old 03-10-2014, 06:58 PM   #4
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Ok, thanks.

What do they mean by the "resolution" of modeling ?

Is Line6 POD HD300 better than the one you showed me ?

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Old 03-10-2014, 07:31 PM   #5
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They could be talking about a number of things, the sample rate, the modeling algorithms or any number of other things. Basically, they are claiming that their simulations sound more like the amps they are modeling than the other guys.
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Old 03-10-2014, 09:19 PM   #6
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The Zoom g3/5 has a looper, metronome in the form of drumbeats, sounds good through headphones and its pretty cheap but the actual quality is pretty good.
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Old 03-11-2014, 04:50 AM   #7
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Ok, thanks.

What do they mean by the "resolution" of modeling ?

Is Line6 POD HD300 better than the one you showed me ?


If you're gonna go for that style of amp simulator you'd be best served by saving your money for the POD HD 500X
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Old 03-11-2014, 06:28 AM   #8
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V-amp 3 is not that bad, but it has a very synthetic sound... and it looks a toy.
You don't have batteries on it. If you don't have a good ground for your electric installation, you'll take all the parasites from the it (especially when using overdrive).

I just want something clean with a usable sound. It's really the amp modeling part that interests me. I almost never use effects, just knowing that I have all these things that I have no use for (and that are not necessarily great) would bother me.

Zoom g3 seems to be a good device, but is there something from a higher range that you can recommand me ?
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Old 03-11-2014, 03:05 PM   #9
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http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/PodHD/

Line 6 Pod HD Desktop model. Get it while that price lasts, I think they're discontinuing it.


I think the only reason they made it is in honor of the old kidney bean PODs, but obviously the floorboard and rack versions are better designs and have better features such as switches and the expression pedal.
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Old 03-11-2014, 04:03 PM   #10
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Yes and right now the kidney bean is beating ebay prices on sweetwater. You can always get the FBV later and still be cheaper than the 500X and have a board full of switches that can be used for other stuff too.
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Old 03-12-2014, 05:38 PM   #11
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Yes and right now the kidney bean is beating ebay prices on sweetwater. You can always get the FBV later and still be cheaper than the 500X and have a board full of switches that can be used for other stuff too.


True, but I'd prefer to get an old non X 500 for my Variax. Runs about 300-400 on ebay.
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Old 03-12-2014, 06:01 PM   #12
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How about something PC based? There are free vsts that are quite good or one of the paid software vsts, like Amplitube, etc.?

I personally use Boss GT-10, you can get one used, has USB built in interface, or the new GT-100.
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Old 03-12-2014, 06:27 PM   #13
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How about something PC based? There are free vsts that are quite good or one of the paid software vsts, like Amplitube, etc.?



Definitely something to look into. I use a lot of VSTs and even some of the free ones (like the LePou stuff) sounds really friggin' great. Paid programs are pretty cool but soundwise I'd probably take Overloud TH2 over AT3 and GR5.



You'd just need something like an M-Audio Fast Track or a Line 6 GX to plug into your computer and you'd be set.
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I think the only reason they made it is in honor of the old kidney bean PODs, but obviously the floorboard and rack versions are better designs and have better features such as switches and the expression pedal.


The Pod HD will be replaced by an HDx model.

The floorboard and rack are not "better designs" by any means.

The Pod "bean" design is pretty awesome. It'll do anything (sonically) that the floor and rack versions will do. It'll also fit into a gig back pocket and go anywhere and it's the lightest weight version of the three. It'll sit on your desk for recording, it'll sit on a microphone stand, etc., at a better height to see what's going on with it. You can use several floor pedal setups for it, including the FBV Shortboard and Express, both of which have switches and expression pedal. But only if you need to.

The Live (floor model) HD500/400/300 versions are fine, but all are bulky and require that you kneel down or bend over and squint at the tiny screen to see what's happening or to make a change. If you have it out front next to a microphone for live use, you also have to have another relatively expensive guitar cable running back to the backline, you need the AC brick out front as well as some kind of AC power. Not so with the footpedals for the rack or "bean" models -- both of those units require only a cheap ethernet cable running across the floor. No AC, no guitar cable. An HD500, for example, puts ALL the vital electronics and switching out front where it's vulnerable to beer spillage, drunks falling on it and a myriad of other potential disasters.

The rack version requires a rack case, and that combination is a helluva lot heavier and bulkier than the "bean." Otherwise, it DOES work very much like the bean. It's also far more expensive than the bean or the Live version and it still requires additional floorboard type pedals for switching and expression if you're using it live.

The main reason for having either the floorboard version or the rack version is the Variax input, which allows you to use an ethernet-type cable from the unit to the Variax guitar. This allows you to store and change not only amp/cab/FX models with a single stomp, but also the guitar model and any alternate tunings. It also eliminates normal guitar cables, which eliminates capacitance issues, etc. There's certainly a use for all three styles, but if you've never used the bean, you won't understand OR appreciate the design.
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Old 03-12-2014, 08:33 PM   #15
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So the Variax won't plug into the POD HD bean?
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Old 03-13-2014, 06:21 AM   #16
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Boss have just announced the new GT-001 guitar processor which sounds like it would suit your needs. That's if you hadn't already noticed it plastered on the homepage of UG!

It's based on the GT100's COSM amps so it's meant to sound great, and is really compact for studio use.
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Old 03-13-2014, 02:44 PM   #17
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The ZOOM G5, I have one, a great unit actually, especially for the price, you can use it as an audio interface and use some equalizing from some vst that comes with your DAW, plus, you can use it as an audio interface, I'm really happy with it.
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The ZOOM G5, I have one, a great unit actually, especially for the price, you can use it as an audio interface and use some equalizing from some vst that comes with your DAW, plus, you can use it as an audio interface, I'm really happy with it.

So you can use it as an audio interface AND as an audio interface? Awesome

Good advice though, great pedal.
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So you can use it as an audio interface AND as an audio interface? Awesome

Good advice though, great pedal.

Sorry made a typo :P I meant you can use it with amp simulator vsts like LePou or amplitube.....
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