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Old 06-07-2014, 09:28 AM   #1
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Metal Music: Whats the difference...?

What is the difference between theese different types?

Metal
Gothic Metal
Speed Metal
Nu Metal
Black Metal

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Old 06-07-2014, 10:24 AM   #2
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Metal I would say is something of an umbrella term. but for the rest see the first page of the recommendation thread at the top of the page which has little genre definitions.
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Old 06-08-2014, 03:35 PM   #3
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Yeah, easiest way to learn the difference is to just listen to the bands. Though I'd argue that general "Metal" is an umbrella term as already said and "Gothic Metal" is a REALLY vaguely defined genre..
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Old 06-08-2014, 04:58 PM   #4
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Old 06-09-2014, 10:15 PM   #5
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What is the difference between theese different types?


Gothic Metal - Self-explanatory.
Speed Metal - Heavy Metal + early Hardcore
Nu Metal - Obnoxious hard rock made by sexually abused children.
Black Metal - Not easily defined in nascent form. Coalesced in Norway in reaction to the perceived commercialization of death metal. Restructured death metal by infusing it with elements from ambient, heavy metal, and classical placing greater emphasis on evil atmosphere and sublime majesty.
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Old 06-10-2014, 12:05 AM   #6
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Black metal = a marketing gimmick invented by make-up wearing basement dwellers to sell their shitty knock-off speed metal and "dark ambient" to unsuspecting fools
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Old 06-10-2014, 02:39 AM   #7
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Black metal = a marketing gimmick invented by make-up wearing basement dwellers to sell their shitty knock-off speed metal and "dark ambient" to unsuspecting fools

Your opinions make me think you know a hell of a lot less about metal than you think you do...
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Old 06-10-2014, 03:09 AM   #8
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nu metal pretty brutal.
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Old 06-10-2014, 03:32 AM   #9
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Black metal = a marketing gimmick invented by make-up wearing basement dwellers to sell their shitty knock-off speed metal and "dark ambient" to unsuspecting fools


So you listened to Dimmu Borgir once?
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Old 06-10-2014, 03:34 AM   #10
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Your opinions make me think you know a hell of a lot less about metal than you think you do...


Nah, my post sums up a good portion of black metal quite accurately (see: Bathory and his followers). Obviously, a lot of the second-wave stuff can't even be called metal.
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Old 06-10-2014, 03:36 AM   #11
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**** off and die poser get the **** out of the metal forum, you belong in the butt rock section. Have fun listening to Pantera and Gay7X

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Old 06-10-2014, 03:49 AM   #12
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Since it's more relevant to this thread...

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You said Bathory wasn't metal, therefore your opinion is no longer valid because you are a false. Please see your way out of the metal forum.


No, I said that early Bathory is speed metal with a clever marketing gimmick ("black metal"). I'm talking about stuff like Hanging Garden, Agalloch, Filosofem-era Burzum, etc when I'm talking about non-metal.
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Old 06-10-2014, 03:54 AM   #13
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Burzum isn't claiming to be metal, and I wouldn't consider that other shit 2nd wave BM maybe 3rd wave or even post black metal or maybe even just dressed up stadium rock.

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Ultimately, it was the transition period of black metal that allowed the dilution of metal riffs with poisonous influences like Dead Can Dance and folk music, creating the Norwegian alternative metal scene that would soon spread and infect metal on the whole by telling people that ambiance and pompous pseudo-classical melodies are in any way compatible with metal. There was a brief period in time in which black metal actually had meaning (see: DMDS), but it was just a transition just as bands like Adramelch and early Helloween existed only briefly before flower metal erased what it meant to play power metal. Black metal is an insidious lie, more subversive than nu metal or any other distraction.
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Old 06-10-2014, 04:30 AM   #15
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I admit there is a **** ton of poser BM bands or atleast "so-called" BM bands.

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Old 06-10-2014, 01:26 PM   #16
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Nah, my post sums up a good portion of black metal quite accurately (see: Bathory and his followers). Obviously, a lot of the second-wave stuff can't even be called metal.

See my previous statement.


Just keep reading it, as you keep posting dumbass shit...
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pompous pseudo-classical melodies are in any way compatible with metal





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Old 06-10-2014, 03:38 PM   #18
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I think HamburgerBoy is just countering NotFromAnus' statement for shock value.
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Very good counter-examples, to be fair. I was thinking more along the lines of your average post-Emperor and any other number of "symphonic" black metal bands that eschew any semblance of quality riffing in favor of fruity choirs and keyboards. Like, even if some of them tremolo-pick and blast all the way through, they often simply take the very basics found in black metal and use them as a skeleton to coat with non-metal fluff.
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Very good counter-examples, to be fair. I was thinking more along the lines of your average post-Emperor and any other number of "symphonic" black metal bands that eschew any semblance of quality riffing in favor of fruity choirs and keyboards. Like, even if some of them tremolo-pick and blast all the way through, they often simply take the very basics found in black metal and use them as a skeleton to coat with non-metal fluff.


Guy's got a point.
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