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Old 08-01-2014, 01:57 AM   #1
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Stock Fender Strat VS Custom Fender Strat

So I hear a lot of talk about upgrading guitars and if its worth it or not.. Or why its worth... if it is... Now when I say Fender Stratocaster in the title, i wish i ment american made, but i have a mexican made(still nice guitars) that i actually really love... plays great, plays with you not against you.. However I have been doing alot of research into things like tuning pegs, brass nuts, different bridges bridges, picks ups, etc.. even into the "science" of a guitar made of nice material/denser accessories vs one made of cheaper material/wood and plastic/cheap metal and thin(less dense) accessories... now with all this being said Im trying to get some opinions from guitar players themselfs rather than talk to the ****tard up at guitarcenter on commission.

What are some good starting upgrades or "must have" upgrades to open up with...

Why are these/this the best upgrade to start with

And how might it effect my overall tone and or playing perhaps?
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Old 08-01-2014, 06:05 AM   #2
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it's up to you really. my MIM has an LSR roller nut, Steel trem block, Locking Tuners and Graphtec Bridge saddles. the pickups were changed as well (bought used so not sure what they are) all of these improved the performance overall. the guitar is used as a back up to my 89 Strat Plus and honestly performs just as well. when I have some spare cash i'll be putting in Lace Sensor pickups.
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Old 08-01-2014, 06:32 AM   #3
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Yup, it's really about what you want, there is no golden standard in custom guitars. Personally, I would be happy with good quality pickups and strap locks, if the guitar feels good otherwise I'd have no need for other mods. If there is a problem with tuning stability, a nut and tuner replacements could also be useful.
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Old 08-01-2014, 06:32 AM   #4
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My Custom shop is a much better guitar than my American Vintage stuff, which are great guitars.
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Old 08-01-2014, 10:03 AM   #5
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So this isn't "MIM vs CS" at all, you just want to know how to upgrade your MIM?

A good setup and fret level/dress will maximize the playability. Start here, no sense in trying to upgrade a guitar that's not adjusted properly in the first place.
A new nut will help tuning stability, the stock one sucks
New pickups are always good, usually the most drastic upgrade you can make for tone
New trem is a good idea if you use it a lot, the MIM one is okay but Gotoh and Wilkinson make really great aftermarket ones that sound a bit better and are smoother. If you're fine with the stock trem just make sure you know how to adjust it.
New pots and tone cap: minor improvement but you may notice a slightly nicer pot action/sweep and they should last longer. New tone cap is also minor but they're cheap and you may find a slightly wider range of usability.
New string tree: the MIM ones suck, it's not a huge issue but good ones are cheap and won't bind up the string.
Take off the trem plate: try it. You might be surprised. Plus, all the cool kids are doing it.
Sand the back of the neck: A preference thing, but if you want the neck to feel closer to a CS neck you can sand down the gloss finish on an MIM. Many of the really nice Fender CS necks have a very thin satin finish that feels like bare wood. Sanding down the MIM neck gets you somewhere close.
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Old 08-01-2014, 10:43 AM   #6
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Go to Guitar Center.com they have the David Gilmour set up, pick guard, pick-ups, the whole set-up for $299.00. the set-up is easy to install and you'll sound amazing.
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Old 08-01-2014, 11:03 AM   #7
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^Why would you do that? The guy asks for generic upgrade advice and you suggest a weirdly specific, overpriced pre-wired "signature" setup that costs as much as the entire guitar is worth?

Unless you're already a huge fan of the EMG SAs (and can't work a soldering iron) or you really, really love Dave Gilmour there are tons of choices that are just as good and half as expensive. I don't see the point in recommending them blind to somebody who just wants to know about generic strat upgrades.
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Old 08-01-2014, 11:34 AM   #8
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I am surprised nobody has mentioned strap locks. EVERYBODY recommends strap locks!
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Old 08-01-2014, 11:35 AM   #9
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Oh, you should get strap locks!
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Old 08-01-2014, 11:55 AM   #10
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I don't have strap locks.
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Old 08-01-2014, 11:59 AM   #11
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I kind of managed to recommend strap locks to myself
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Old 08-01-2014, 12:07 PM   #12
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Out of all the guitars I've owned, All I really do is put strap locks on. Apart from my PRS and LTD i own which have the pickups swapped out.

Currently building my own strat so that's all gotta be bought and stuck together.
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Old 08-01-2014, 12:11 PM   #13
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Forget strap locks ,Just put rubber washers on after you attach your strap.(i heard it works,Never tried though)
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Old 08-01-2014, 12:25 PM   #14
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Well, what do you want to upgrade? Do you want a different tone? Better quality electronics or mechanical parts? Does the standard Strat bridge bother you? (Bugs the crap out of me, lol.)
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Old 08-01-2014, 02:10 PM   #15
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^ I hate when my tremolos bully me. Always making snide uncalled-for comments.
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Trolling tremolos are the worst.

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Trollmelos?
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I think you'll find that the correct technical term is 'trollbrato'
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