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Old 09-01-2014, 12:10 AM   #1
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Unhappy "Djent" tone(s) with Irig Amplitube (for the iphone)

I have come across a BIGproblem, I cant get a good tone on my Amplitube app using my Schecter omen 8. The layout i have been using is good for the normal six strings but the 7th and 8th sound like shit. I was wondering if anyone can give me some tips on how to get this "djent tone"
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Old 09-01-2014, 04:08 AM   #2
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firstly the omen 8 stock pickups are shit.

I use the full amplitube and the only decent djent tone i can get for the omen is through the engl amp. but i do use separate impulses. im not familiar with the iRig version.

you want to run a compressor => tube screamer => 10 band eq => amp

and then for cab try one of the orange cabs with v30s in it. just cycle trough until you get one that has a lot of mids.

Hope that helps!
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Old 09-01-2014, 04:18 AM   #3
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Now, I don't like amplitube and I think that itself might be your problem, but...

How are you connecting the guitar to the iphone?
How are you listening to the result?
How are your settings/pedals/amp?

'cause a djent tone is defined by a couple things:
1. a noise gate with low threshold, fast attack and fast release.
2. an mid gain amp with a lot of mids, some highs and not much lows
3. a guitar with fairly sloppy strings
4. someone who can play djent

Point two you achieve it setting a fairly low or low mid gain amp with (as starting point, with settings out of 10) bass at 4 or 5, mids at 8 or 9, highs at 7, and a convincing boost generating very little to no distortion.

Point four you achieve it with practice (and raaaaaaage).

Then, clips showing your problem would help.
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I don't really think sloppy strings are necessary... Or an absence of gain for that matter. The only thing "djent" sounds have in common across the board is that heavily gated, compressed tone. I really don't know how having sloppy strings would help at all.

Just to be clear TS ( the thread title made it confusing) are you using the iPhone/iPad version?
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Old 09-01-2014, 08:56 AM   #5
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I dont really have the gear to get amplitube on my pc. And I'm using my iphone. The Irig connects to the iPhone and your guitar into the Irig.
But,, with some of the tips you guys have given so far i have come up with something that sounds a bit better
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To be honest I think that you may want to look into a different app, I had Amplitube and Ampkit+ and much preferred the latter, higher quality metal sounds and more options for dialing stuff in.
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Ill try out ampkit+ and see how that works out!
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Positive Grid's JamUp and Bias are extremely popular among the prog metal crowd, I'll just post a bunch of YouTube vids of popular players using it:




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While bias may just work, I don't quite see the relevance of that vids - that music played there has pretty little to do with djent.
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While bias may just work, I don't quite see the relevance of that vids - that music played there has pretty little to do with djent.

That's all entirely subjective, because that term means something different to everyone. Here's something a little more "generic":
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While bias may just work, I don't quite see the relevance of that vids - that music played there has pretty little to do with djent.


Well seeing as Bulb and Periphery coined the term "djent" I'd say that having two Periphery guitar player demo the product makes it relevance to the genre obvious
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Well seeing as Bulb and Periphery coined the term "djent" I'd say that having two Periphery guitar player demo the product makes it relevance to the genre obvious

Here's the third
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Well that pretty much sums it up then huh?
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That's all entirely subjective, because that term means something different to everyone.
I would disagree on that.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Djent
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Djent
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Well seeing as Bulb and Periphery coined the term "djent" I'd say that having two Periphery guitar player demo the product makes it relevance to the genre obvious
Meshuggah coined that term, and while periphery usually get added in the "djent" category, they lack a fair bit of what makes djent unique.

Djent is ideally characterized by a pretty heavy sounding staccato playing, while periphery sound like hardcore prog to me.
Same thing for bulb.
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Dammit Luca, stop knowing shit that I don't! Here I am thinking that Periphery were the definition of djent and then you go and ruin the whole thing with your facts!!! Still, I think your original stands that the software will probably cop djent tone, whatever your definition of it is.
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Just because there are solid definitions written down somewhere on the internet doesn't mean everyone uses it all in the so-called "correct" way

I understand what you mean, and I can tell the differences between Periphery and stuff like MDB, Volumes, Refections, Structures, (insert plural noun here...) but OP didn't specify any particular bands. Periphery's pretty damn popular, as are the other demoers I put links to, so I can trust they put out high-quality stuff most people will find pleasing. It's not like they're playing country or anything you can get the gist of what they're doing

But who am I to say anything, I hope the term "djent" dies in a fire and we can go on without having ridiculous subgenres that pigeonhole our music tastes
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Watched high gain amp demo with two djent duydes on Premier guitar and they were able to get their tones on pretty much all high gain amps. When I use Amplitube I usually dial in aggressive noise gate, tubescreamer clone, then one of the two Marshall emulations and post compression, usually tube comp Sim.
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'cause a djent tone is defined by a couple things:
4. someone who can play binary code


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Here's the third


Wow, I didn't think that tone apps were any good. I was going to say, "your problem is that you're using tone apps." But this is legit. Good luck OP with getting your tone c:
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Watched high gain amp demo with two djent duydes on Premier guitar and they were able to get their tones on pretty much all high gain amps.
There's this thing about the premier guitar youtube channel though, that every guy in it, paul especially, can make piece of gear sound the same...
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Judging by your attitude it looks like someone can't properly do that
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There's this thing about the premier guitar youtube channel though, that every guy in it, paul especially, can make piece of gear sound the same...
Judging by your attitude it looks like someone can't properly do that


This was done by Misha Motion and some other djent guy, not Paul. Granted, they were making clogged toilet sounds in elephant hearing territory but for what it was, it sounded good.
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