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Old 09-02-2014, 01:16 AM   #1
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JCA22H or Peavey Valveking Micro

hi I've been looking at amps for months now and I've finally narrowed it down to the Jet City JCA22H or the Valveking Micro.

Both are sub $400 but the JCA22H is discontinued in the US.

Valveking Micro is about $365 with the Labor Day sale.

I play anything from blues, jazz, prog rock to death metal. I don't play any gigs, just bedroom.

What's your input?
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Old 09-02-2014, 04:30 AM   #2
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Well the Jet citiy can do death metal with an overdrive in front of it. I dunno about the Valveking, but as far as i know its not really a metal machine. On the other hand, im not really sure how jazz would sound on the JC, my jca50 does nice cleans, but i rarely use them with my band.
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Old 09-02-2014, 04:51 AM   #3
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Only the low gain version of the JCA50 combo has a real clean channel, the others have a low gain crunch and a high gain crunch.

If you don't need cleans at much high volumes (so only in your bedroom) you'll be good.

The VK has a power control (IIRC) and a line out, so it comes really handy when recording if you like the sound of it, though while the cleans have the reputation of being reeeally good, the drive channel seems to be a bit shallow because of the solid state boost before the tubes.

You may try and solve that with a boost, but probably the JCA will be more convenient if you're going for more high gain tones.
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Old 09-02-2014, 05:00 AM   #4
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The VK is fantastic for jazz. It can do blues.

The Jet City should be good for blues. Prog Rock is all up to your preferences.

Neither are good for death metal. The Jet City can do it if you boost it.


Overall the Jet City has more usable versatility, but it won't ever be able to lay a finger on the VKs capabilities for an ultra clean jazz sound.
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Old 09-02-2014, 10:01 AM   #5
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I'm sort of leaning towards the JCA22 but MF says it has been discontinued and there are no listings of it on Ebay or the Craiglists in my area.
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Old 09-02-2014, 07:40 PM   #6
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My jet city does have a clean channel. Just gotta keep the crunch channel gain low and the volume high. But the overdive channel does pretty much do everything when boosted and an EQ pedal.
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Old 09-02-2014, 08:16 PM   #7
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^ that would be the low gain crunch channel

The only really clean channels are found on the vertical input JCA2112RC and the 5212RC.
Or maybe it's the 5012RC, I can never remember that.

Anyway, every jet city can pull of a clean tone, only it'll only be either really clean or really loud unless it's one of these two I mentioned.
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^ Yeah
If you turn the gain up past 3/10 or something it gets rather crunchy rather quickly. Do enjoy it though.
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Old 09-03-2014, 11:51 AM   #9
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how loud is the jet city? what pedals would you guys suggest to use as a boost?
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Old 09-03-2014, 12:06 PM   #10
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Respectively, pretty damn loud and depends on your budget.

On the cheap, the all time favorite is the digitech bad monkey, which is a tube screamer (don't ask me what tube screamer exactly) with two tone controls instead of one.

Then there's the digitech blues driver, the boss SD-1, the joyo vintage OD, the EHX sould food...

Anyway, these boosts will get you a tighter sound (less bass extension resulting in a more controlled sound) and raise your gain.
If you want a more flabby bass sound, look into a clean boost, such as the joyo roll boost, or (if you're willing to spend that money) a zvex super hard on.
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You know, you could get one of those 1 or 5watt tube amps for bedroom playing, since you dont really need much volume. The jet city is even loud enough to play with a band, altough im not sure about the valve king.
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Has anyone ever used GearClubDirect? These guys look sketch but they have things in stock.
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You know, you could get one of those 1 or 5watt tube amps for bedroom playing, since you dont really need much volume.
No point in getting a small amp for playing at lower volumes.

I mean, if you get a 1/4w amp you'll get power section distortion at reasonable volumes, but 5w is a hell of a lot of power y' know.

Also small amps don't sound better at low volumes than big amps just because they're small.
If an amp is better than another amp, it will sound better at both low and high volumes.
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Has anyone ever used GearClubDirect? These guys look sketch but they have things in stock.

No, but they seem legit after looking at their page
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what cabs would you guys suggesting to run the JCA 22 thru?
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what cabs would you guys suggesting to run the JCA 22 thru?

What is your budget for a cab?
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What is your budget for a cab?


about $300
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The VK has a power control (IIRC) and a line out, so it comes really handy when recording if you like the sound of it, though while the cleans have the reputation of being reeeally good, the drive channel seems to be a bit shallow because of the solid state boost before the tubes.

On my older VK the boost was switchable in and out. Not sure how the Micro works but it looks like the boost is switchable from the pics I saw. I trust what others say on the Jet City but I was never that impressed. I'm sure everyone is sick of me recommending the Vypyr Tube 60 but that is what I recommend. Jazz to Death Metal - no problem.
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On my older VK the boost was switchable in and out. Not sure how the Micro works but it looks like the boost is switchable from the pics I saw. I trust what others say on the Jet City but I was never that impressed. I'm sure everyone is sick of me recommending the Vypyr Tube 60 but that is what I recommend. Jazz to Death Metal - no problem.


he speaks the truth.

one thought that i had would be a mesa DC, F, express, or lonestar combo for your total budget.

you can find MKIV combos for $800-$900 regularly for the combo.
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