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Old 12-19-2015, 06:27 PM   #1
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Buckethead is overrated

I listened to a lot of his songs this year, and it seems that outside of Soothsayer and Nottingham Lace, Bucketed is not that great. Soothsayer came out well, because he had another artist help him write it. A lot of Buckethead's songs are simple, not very melodic, and just plain unusual. Buckethead is eccentric just like Primus is. Yngwie and Marty Friedman are a lot better instrumental guitarists. Their songs are more complicated and melodic.
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Old 12-19-2015, 06:58 PM   #2
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He has even less quality control than Merzbow and releases half as much interesting content but

why make a thread

EDIT: also, Primus are not eccentric. At all. Perhaps if you browse Reddit or /b/.

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Old 12-19-2015, 07:03 PM   #3
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He's eccentric, omg he's bad
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Old 12-19-2015, 07:42 PM   #4
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Primus is really weird. Steve Vai has a lot of weird songs, too. Some of Satriani's songs are weird, too.
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Old 12-19-2015, 07:46 PM   #5
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If you think that any of those are "weird" you have a very limited exposure to prog and experimental rock.
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Old 12-19-2015, 08:02 PM   #6
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I like traditional music. Yngwie is my favorite.
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Old 12-19-2015, 09:49 PM   #7
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Old 12-23-2015, 04:14 PM   #8
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Oh, I forgot to mention that he wears a KFC bucket on his head and a mask — very different.
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Old 01-22-2016, 03:11 AM   #9
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Jordan was quite the killer hit that sparked popularity in Buckethead for many of the younger folks, good or bad in that regard. Same with Aunt Suzie. Marty Friedman, to even more people, will always be remembered just for Megadeth and not for any of his other work. That's not my personal take; just a parroting of popular views. Yngwee is a very decent instrumentalist, same with Merzbow. Eccentricity is a nice and defining part of a lot of infamous musicians, so it may not be so bad. Primus, I would say, is less eccentric than Yngwee at least in playing style, but that's just me. John the Fisherman, My Name Is Mud, Jerry Was A Race Car Driver (few examples of their songs, but all I could think off the top of my head) were huge hits, if I recall correctly.
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Old 01-22-2016, 09:13 PM   #10
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The cartoon-like mysterious depiction of Buckethead really helped for people to get interested in him. There's more to I wouldn't call him terrible, but certainly not great either. Visual depictions can really help attract listeners to some artists for sure.
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Old 01-23-2016, 09:35 PM   #11
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Especially if the artists are either eccentric or crafty. Seems to draw crowds in by major bucketfuls
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Old 01-25-2016, 05:55 PM   #12
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Not a big Buckethead fan. He is talented, though. Maybe not the most musically interesting, but he plays well enough and has a good visual component to his act. Primus are pretty surface level but they're talented dudes, too. Claypool rips. Also, feel free to call me out if I'm wrong, but it sounds like Yngwee does the same stuff shreddy classical guitarists/composers have been doing for centuries, just with distortion.
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Basically, Million. He is neo-classical metal on a lot of things. Extreme and him were going at it a lot before on who did better proportions of it, if I remember correctly. He copes with speedier forms of the older music.
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Old 02-01-2016, 06:21 PM   #14
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How can anyone say that Primus is surface level or "traditional"? Not only did they completely swap the roles of the bassist and the frontman, utilizing vocals from someone who could by no means be considered a great "singer", all the while writing on topics that other people weren't even thinking about, they did this all with a unique take on funk, rock and punk fused into a new brown sound.

Also, if you listen to Buckethead and come away thinking that Soothsayer and Nottingham Lace are his only worthwhile songs, then I must say we've listened to his music for radically different reasons. For instance, some of my favorite Buckethead songs are 'I Love My Parents', 'Big D's Touch', 'Big Sur Moon', and 'Beyond the Knowing'. None of those are shredding songs. He doesn't do the whole jazz approach, with using non local key signatures and all that that entails, but his music is complex in that it captures something raw and unmistakably sincere.

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I Love My Parents, I remember from before. Soothsayer, Nottingham Lace, Final Wars, and Jordan are his more commercially successful ones, yes, but not necessarily his best ones :P I liked Aunt Suzie, too, and it wasn't completely shred or much of it. It was actually soothing and decently calm for his other works. Primus does offer quite a unique amalgamation of different genres all in once...and come on. Dem bass skills

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So "unusual" and "lacking complexity" means bad to you? That's quite a limited perspective and mind you have. Not liking a genre or artist is all well and good obviously but the way you're expressing yourself it seems like you lack perspective and forethought.
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Oh no. Those are AMAZING things to have and be :3 Sometimes simple is the best route, and sometimes complexity is. It all depends on how one goes about it
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How can anyone say that Primus is surface level or "traditional"? Not only did they completely swap the roles of the bassist and the frontman, utilizing vocals from someone who could by no means be considered a great "singer", all the while writing on topics that other people weren't even thinking about, they did this all with a unique take on funk, rock and punk fused into a new brown sound.

Also, if you listen to Buckethead and come away thinking that Soothsayer and Nottingham Lace are his only worthwhile songs, then I must say we've listened to his music for radically different reasons. For instance, some of my favorite Buckethead songs are 'I Love My Parents', 'Big D's Touch', 'Big Sur Moon', and 'Beyond the Knowing'. None of those are shredding songs. He doesn't do the whole jazz approach, with using non local key signatures and all that that entails, but his music is complex in that it captures something raw and unmistakably sincere.

100% Agreed, those are amazing songs.

My own 2 cents, techniques and all that stuff aside, I still love Buckethead. It's obviously a personal thing, but I find a lot of emotional attachment with his music, especially the softer atmospheric pieces. His music is expressive and emotional, and he manages to do it with a guitar in a special way. He'll always be one of my favorite guitarists.
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Regarding he's playing, I think he's not as good as yngwie,PG, Bumblefoot. Sometimes he goes out of time, hits a few bum notes, not as fast as the others. But he can write GOOD music which a lot of the other guys can't and has emotion. That's why he's my favorite guitarist.
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He's good.
Doesn’t change the fact that he's good, whether you like his play or not.
Doesn't matter why. He just is.
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