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Old 11-30-2005, 01:43 PM   #1
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Goldfinger and their slow-spiraling downfall to Pop-Punk

I am an immense fan of the early Goldfinger Punk/Ska (especially Hang-Ups, a pure ska album), but unfortunately they have decreased in my music interest, because I, for one, have found their newer music to be a total opposite of the music I once loved.

Does anyone else share these opinions? In a way I can't really denounce these guys because of my love for their on-stage antics (craziness), but at the same time I can't belive the kind of direction they've been going in recently. I enjoyed Stomping Ground, despite the obvious change of pace in their usual style of music. Open Your Eyes was pushing it for me - despite a few good songs some sounded like a song you'd expect from Simple Plan. Now, finally, all hope I have had in them has shattered, with their 'Disconnection Notice' CD. I'm not trying to say the CD isn't any good, but not for those who enjoyed the stuff some might classify in the 'Punk' genre.

The only other hard topic I'm finding is that (supposedly) John Feldman is producing Hillary Duff's newest CD. In a way I want to burn some CDs where he seemed a rebel from these types of things, but another side of me takes sympathy towards his antics - I mean, he has a wife now, and maybe even a kid, I'm not sure. He has to make money, I realize, but you'd think he might do it in a different way.

Sorry for the brief rant, but I just wanted to see if any GoldFinger fans from this site felt the same way about their current downfall.

Thanks for any discussion,
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Old 11-30-2005, 02:04 PM   #2
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Whats Ska
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Old 11-30-2005, 02:05 PM   #3
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*Sigh* It's a genre closely related to punk and raggae.
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Old 11-30-2005, 02:05 PM   #4
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cool do you pronounce it skah or Skae
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Old 11-30-2005, 02:15 PM   #5
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Are you serious? Well it's good ur finally learning, Surfgreen... and it's pronounced Skah. Listen to it too, tis greaty
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Old 11-30-2005, 02:54 PM   #6
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Greenfinger, I couldn't agree more. I do still love them lots, I mean the self titled album and Hang Ups always has a loving place in my ska/ska-punk/reggae collection. However, Disconnection Notice-bar two songs for me-was a huge let down. I reviewed it for the site, and was probably too kind on it. I'm hoping with the next album, Goldfinger can do a whole "return to our roots" thang, but that's hihgly unlikely. Especially since John Feldman is on a vegan/pop punk cd producing crusade. *Sigh* But there's always other bands. I'd still go to see them in concert if they ever came back to the UK.
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Old 11-30-2005, 03:10 PM   #7
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Every Time I hear Superman I get nostalgic and I want to play the Tony Hawks Pro skater pizza hut demo again

Anyway, Goldfinger's early work is damn good but I stopped caring eventually, not because of their descent into pop punk (there is nothing wrong with pop punk), but just because I lost intrest in Goldfinger's stuff.

I can relate though, I loooooove Less Than Jake even though they never were a true Ska band and the fact that most of the Punk/Ska community frowns upon them; kinda like they frown upon goldfinger.
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Old 11-30-2005, 03:16 PM   #8
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Every Time I hear Superman I get nostalgic and I want to play the Tony Hawks Pro skater pizza hut demo again

Anyway, Goldfinger's early work is damn good but I stopped caring eventually, not because of their descent into pop punk (there is nothing wrong with pop punk), but just because I lost intrest in Goldfinger's stuff.

I can relate though, I loooooove Less Than Jake even though they never were a true Ska band and the fact that most of the Punk/Ska community frowns upon them; kinda like they frown upon goldfinger.


I totally dig what you're saying about THPS and the pro pop-punk thing(I too like it), but to be honest, I always considered Less Than Jake to be "more ska" than Goldfinger. I dunno really, I've just always categorised Less Than Jake as ska-punk until Anthem.
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Old 11-30-2005, 03:20 PM   #9
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*Sigh* It's a genre closely related to punk and raggae.


To be the asshole of this thread:

Ska isn't quite closely related to Punk.
And um....

Although I hate to say it, but Goldfinger have been a Pop-Punk band since Open Your Eyes. (Note the loss of a horn section, and just about everyone else in the band besides the singer...)

I guess it has to do with that whole "I want to be respected, and mature" attitude most SoCal bands have taken.
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Old 11-30-2005, 04:24 PM   #10
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Old 11-30-2005, 04:27 PM   #11
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Heyzeus, when will people stop using the term pop punk in a derogitory way?
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Old 11-30-2005, 06:18 PM   #12
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Because most pop-punk is very bad. When I think of pop-punk, I think of Simple Plan, Good Charlette, all those ugly bands.
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Old 11-30-2005, 06:23 PM   #13
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those are not pop punk
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Old 11-30-2005, 06:25 PM   #14
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Old 11-30-2005, 06:32 PM   #15
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What are they and what is pop-punk then?
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Old 11-30-2005, 06:39 PM   #16
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They are pop rock. Pop punk would be bands like Screeching Weasel, The Ramones, The Buzzcocks, and Ted Leo and the Pharmacists
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They are pop rock. Notice the lack of distortion, how slow the songs are in compairison to punk, and how whiney and poppy the vocals are. Those bands are often wrongly catagorized as pop punk, but infact are no where close. A pop punk band is one that takes the fast and distorted guitar style from punk and more melodic vocals, usually with joking or light hearted lyrics, though not always. Pop punk bands are ones such as Screeching Weasel, The Queers, The Ramones, The Vandals, Mr. T Experience, ect.
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Ah. Well, on THUG American Wasteland, they got real lame on the soundtrack and decided to call Thrice, Thursday, Fall Out Boy, My Chemical Romance and and Taking Back Sunday punk. I haven't listened to much of them because I avoid radio and MTV so what would you call them?
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Old 11-30-2005, 06:49 PM   #20
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the first two tony hawk games had awsome soundtracks.. goldfinger, primus, jurassic 5...

i never really got into goldfinger except for superman which i heard back in 5th grade playing tony hawk.. it brings me back to my memories of how my friend slept over every friday and we'd be up to like 3 playing tony hawk...
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