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Old 01-15-2010, 06:21 PM   #61
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Describe people of African descent as "unaccomplished" as though it's a result of their genetics isn't racist?

Arghoslent may know how to write riffs, but they're still idiots. It's one thing to say that there are few scientific, architectural, or other forms of advances to come from sub-Saharan Africa, it's another to say that it's the result of some genetic deficiency, which is what Arghoslent believe.


Never once was genetics mentioned.
Again, you're arguing against something that was never proposed, which everyone seems too when it comes to this subject.

If genetics were involved at all, which its obviously not, then they would not hold their obvious feeling of contempt for most of the worlds white people, would they?
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Old 01-15-2010, 06:52 PM   #62
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Never once was genetics mentioned.
Again, you're arguing against something that was never proposed, which everyone seems too when it comes to this subject.

If genetics were involved at all, which its obviously not, then they would not hold their obvious feeling of contempt for most of the worlds white people, would they?

Let's take a look at the very next paragraph from the interview segment you posted:

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In layman痴 terms, whites are responsible for the pathetic state of affairs, to such a degree that even a half-black presidential candidate is seen with optimism around the country and the world. Have no doubt in your mind that by having a white mother, he痴 should not be considered black and that his apparent success, as mentioned by my conspirator Holocausto, would not have been achieved had both his parents been Kenyan immigrants.

If genetics aren't a part of it, why does Pogrom instantly rule out the possibility of success of someone born to two African immigrants?
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Old 01-15-2010, 06:58 PM   #63
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Because there is more to humans then genetics?

For starters.

I think you're just having a knee jerk reaction to that last sentence. Lets be frank, when was the last time a fresh off the boat Kenyan immigrant held a position in congress?

Here's a hint, has nothing do with the fact that "oh my god he's black"

Same concept.
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Old 01-15-2010, 07:34 PM   #64
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He's not arguing about a fresh-off-the-boat Kenyan immigrant, he's arguing about the son of Kenyan immigrants that was born and raised in America. Why would he not be able to succeed?

Is it genetics? If they believe that, they're racist, no questions asked.

Is it some innate character flaw not present in whites? If they believe that, they're racist.

Is it because blacks and whites are simply incompatible together? That's a tougher nut to crack, but if they believe it, they're still racist. You have to take into account several economic, social, and historical factors that come into play. Most people don't know the whole thing, but they're at least smart enough to realize that it isn't some BS cultural incompatibility at play. White nationalists (and, by extension, most likely the guys in Arghoslent) choose to completely ignore these factors and come up with some pseudo-scientific explanation based on cultural incompatibility in an effort to justify their irrational beliefs. (In reality, once you prod these types enough, you find that most of their arguments eventually boil down to biological reductionism, essentially making them the same as the first type I posted above.)

Are you arguing that Arghoslent aren't racist? Because it's very much apparent that they are. The members themselves, however, have never been questioned to any significant depth about their beliefs; it would be a safe bet that their beliefs about race fall into one of the three categories above. They've never outright said it, but the dots aren't hard to connect.
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Old 01-16-2010, 12:16 PM   #65
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Let's see. Median IQ in Central, Southern and Eastern Europe, as well as in primarily white multi-racial societies like the US and the UK hovers right around 100. In Israel, Northern Europe and Northeast Asia, median IQ tends to be in the 105 range. In sub-Saharan Africa, median IQ's are more in the 75-85 range. Median black IQ in the United States hovers at the upper end of the sub-Saharan range.

Now, we can either be PC ****wits or we can just admit what anyone with a brain already knows: there's a substantial genetic component to intelligence, and it isn't evenly distributed across either the general population or among racial and ethnic groups. Why this should be surprising to anyone, I don't know, since it's precisely what we would expect to see given the nature of evolutionary pressures and mechanisms.

In any event, the problem with Arghoslent isn't 'racism' (which is, after all, nothing more than another boogeyman word with no real meaning - after all, most of history's successful people(s) have been 'racists'). The problems stem more from the variety of vulgar, moronic 'racism' that they espouse and the fact that they can't write their way out of the proverbial paper bag.

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Old 01-16-2010, 02:05 PM   #66
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Let's see. Median IQ in Central, Southern and Eastern Europe, as well as in primarily white multi-racial societies like the US and the UK hovers right around 100. In Israel, Northern Europe and Northeast Asia, median IQ tends to be in the 105 range. In sub-Saharan Africa, median IQ's are more in the 75-85 range. Median black IQ in the United States hovers at the upper end of the sub-Saharan range.

Now, we can either be PC ****wits or we can just admit what anyone with a brain already knows: there's a substantial genetic component to intelligence, and it isn't evenly distributed across either the general population or among racial and ethnic groups. Why this should be surprising to anyone, I don't know, since it's precisely what we would expect to see given the nature of evolutionary pressures and mechanisms.

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Bingo, the "why" of which eludes both the skinhead types and liberals.
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Old 01-16-2010, 06:54 PM   #69
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Never once was genetics mentioned.
Again, you're arguing against something that was never proposed, which everyone seems too when it comes to this subject.

If genetics were involved at all, which its obviously not, then they would not hold their obvious feeling of contempt for most of the worlds white people, would they?



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Old 01-16-2010, 07:37 PM   #70
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Yes because we all know artist can't simply write lyrics that in no way pertain to their ideals. No they simply can't be writing historical fantastical or narrative lyrics.

Nope.
Never.
Impossible.

In fact last night I saw George Fisher cum blood.
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Old 01-16-2010, 07:39 PM   #71
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By the way I completely understand and acknowledge that Arghoslent is indeed "racist"

Look I understand half of you are so fantastically belligerent neonates who can't see beyond their gnarled ugly shit stained hand in front of their faces so just pretend I never said anything and you can get on with your horizons sheltered like every other Puritan American lifestyle.
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Old 01-16-2010, 07:42 PM   #72
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I knew reviving this thread would be a mistake and a swarm of 17 year old keyboard commandos would swarm in and enlighten us on the thought processes and intent of the band's lyrics.

Dylar, every thread I've seen you post in so far has been you trying to inflame other users of the forum by spouting out your controversial all-knowing OPINIONS.

Strangle, what is this Usain Bolt you speak of. They have no MA page?
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Old 01-17-2010, 02:49 AM   #76
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Haha ohh I thought he was referring to a band.
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Excellent...this band are really growing on me! Gonna pick up Galloping... and the first 3 demos rerelease thing next week.
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Galloping and the latest one are amazing, i need to check the local metal shop to see if they've stocked up on anything else by them yet.
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Hornets of the Pogrom and Incorrigible Bigotry are easily my favorites. This band writes some of the most addictive riffs ever imho, ie Menacled Freightage.
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Wasn't sure how I felt about the band, then I saw they had hate mail. I rofled. Cool riffs.
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