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Old 01-29-2013, 07:43 AM   #30901
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Scottish history rules. We invented EVERYTHING.

pfft get real, greeks invented everything.
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Old 01-29-2013, 07:45 AM   #30902
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Australia really has nothing to be proud of. Usually History is taught in schools to instill a bit of patriotism, but Australian history is almost nothing but racism. We haven't been in anything interesting on a global scale, we don't have any documents to be proud of like the First Amendment of the US, and we really don't have any heroes like Lincoln to show us how awesome people from our country can be.

yeah did you catch gillard's speech on australia day at the citizenship ceremony? something about australia having a great history of immigration? yeah right get real. we have a ****ing horrible history of immigration. although at least all the old racists are dying out, which is a positive thing.
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Old 01-29-2013, 01:23 PM   #30903
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Dem immigrants, taking our benefits, ruining our culture.
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Old 01-29-2013, 07:23 PM   #30904
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yeah did you catch gillard's speech on australia day at the citizenship ceremony? something about australia having a great history of immigration? yeah right get real. we have a ****ing horrible history of immigration. although at least all the old racists are dying out, which is a positive thing.

Yes but their inbred offspring live on.
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Old 01-29-2013, 08:03 PM   #30905
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Australia really has nothing to be proud of. Usually History is taught in schools to instill a bit of patriotism, but Australian history is almost nothing but racism. We haven't been in anything interesting on a global scale, we don't have any documents to be proud of like the First Amendment of the US, and we really don't have any heroes like Lincoln to show us how awesome people from our country can be.


American history is the same to be honest. I almost view American and Australian history as the same in that both of our nations are just extensions of Anglo-rooted oppression against indigenous people. This sounds very fourteen year old-ish but you know I'm right.

Lincoln (as with most other historical figures) really wasn't cool and our famous documents have loads of racism and other subtle messages, it's just that they only teach the cool sounding intros in school. America has invented a number of things and has made cultural contributions but I feel that the bad outweighs the good and the way we achieved the good leaves me wearing the title 'American' as a badge of shame.

I bring this up way too much on UG and it pisses people off. I'm not anti-American or anti-Australian, I just think the people we conquered deserve their own place in the world, know'm sayin? I just wish America, Australia, etc. would just at least take their foot off instead of smashing indigenous peoples into the ground.

Edit: Also, sorry I went all serious in the Myoos thread.
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Old 01-30-2013, 12:36 AM   #30906
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We should all take after the Kiwi's really. They ****ed up real bad then fixed it.
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Old 01-30-2013, 02:36 AM   #30907
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Yes but their inbred offspring live on.

oh my god, tell me about it. one of my acquaintances (downgraded from friend when i found out she was a ****ing bigot) genuinely believes that gillard is a shit pm just because she's a woman. plus she's racist and sexualitist. i wish i could say that her being greek had nothing to do with it, but it's due to her so-called orthodox beliefs (she doesn't observe the premarital sex view, ironically). so much of my family is racist, sexist and sexualitist it's not funny.

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immigrants! that's how they do, you know. just drive around listening to raps and shooting all the jobs.
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Old 01-30-2013, 10:41 AM   #30908
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American history is the same to be honest.

LIES! America invented freedom, therefore America = Jesus.
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Old 01-30-2013, 05:46 PM   #30909
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American history is the same to be honest. I almost view American and Australian history as the same in that both of our nations are just extensions of Anglo-rooted oppression against indigenous people. This sounds very fourteen year old-ish but you know I'm right.

Lincoln (as with most other historical figures) really wasn't cool and our famous documents have loads of racism and other subtle messages, it's just that they only teach the cool sounding intros in school. America has invented a number of things and has made cultural contributions but I feel that the bad outweighs the good and the way we achieved the good leaves me wearing the title 'American' as a badge of shame.

I bring this up way too much on UG and it pisses people off. I'm not anti-American or anti-Australian, I just think the people we conquered deserve their own place in the world, know'm sayin? I just wish America, Australia, etc. would just at least take their foot off instead of smashing indigenous peoples into the ground.

Edit: Also, sorry I went all serious in the Myoos thread.

Yes, American history is by no means without its blemishes but America has a lot to be proud of. It still remains the only secular democracy in the world. The First Amendment to the Constitution is a beautiful thing, which secures freedom of speech (among other great things) in writing. Sure other countries almost guarantee the same freedoms, but other countries weren't founded on them.

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oh my god, tell me about it. one of my acquaintances (downgraded from friend when i found out she was a ****ing bigot) genuinely believes that gillard is a shit pm just because she's a woman. plus she's racist and sexualitist. i wish i could say that her being greek had nothing to do with it, but it's due to her so-called orthodox beliefs (she doesn't observe the premarital sex view, ironically). so much of my family is racist, sexist and sexualitist it's not funny.

It seems quite common in social interactions for me to think "Are they joking? Jesus Christ I hope they're joking".
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Old 01-30-2013, 07:55 PM   #30910
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Yes, American history is by no means without its blemishes but America has a lot to be proud of. It still remains the only secular democracy in the world. The First Amendment to the Constitution is a beautiful thing, which secures freedom of speech (among other great things) in writing. Sure other countries almost guarantee the same freedoms, but other countries weren't founded on them.


It seems quite common in social interactions for me to think "Are they joking? Jesus Christ I hope they're joking".


That being said, the Constitution is still one of the major reasons why America hasn't gotten rid of its ridiculous gun laws...
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^ That's because right-wing Americans treat the Constitution and Bill of Rights as scripture.
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Old 01-31-2013, 01:22 AM   #30912
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Yes, American history is by no means without its blemishes but America has a lot to be proud of. It still remains the only secular democracy in the world. The First Amendment to the Constitution is a beautiful thing, which secures freedom of speech (among other great things) in writing. Sure other countries almost guarantee the same freedoms, but other countries weren't founded on them.
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Once again, sorry Muse thread for being serious but at least it's not another existential crises.

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Old 01-31-2013, 08:16 AM   #30913
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Yes, American history is by no means without its blemishes but America has a lot to be proud of. It still remains the only secular democracy in the world. The First Amendment to the Constitution is a beautiful thing, which secures freedom of speech (among other great things) in writing. Sure other countries almost guarantee the same freedoms, but other countries weren't founded on them.[/I]

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Old 01-31-2013, 11:56 AM   #30914
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The greeks came up with democracy.
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Old 01-31-2013, 05:32 PM   #30915
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The greeks came up with democracy.

The Ancient Greeks only allowed votes to men and held slaves, who also weren't allowed to vote.

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Who told you that?

I also meant without a monarchy.

To Will 2: I'm mainly basing my posts on this thing of beauty (from the declaration of independence):

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness."

No other country has this written as the founding of a nation.
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Old 02-01-2013, 01:11 AM   #30916
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Old 02-01-2013, 07:11 AM   #30917
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I am not happy about my monarchy. I don't care if it's quaint or traditional. It's an outmoded structure with no purpose other than taking the tax payer's money.
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Old 02-01-2013, 07:16 AM   #30918
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I'm alright with our royal family. They're decent peeps.

Also, I've read about the British royal family that they stimulate the economy through tourism alone enough to make up for what they cost.

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Old 02-01-2013, 12:05 PM   #30919
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I am not happy about my monarchy. I don't care if it's quaint or traditional. It's an outmoded structure with no purpose other than taking the tax payer's money.

Yup. A relic of a fascist age and a jewel-encrusted personification of the out-dated class system which basically is the single shittest thing about all modern society.

BTW, I just got the new Cult of Luna album. A bit gloomy for my usual tastes, but it's awesome.
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I'm alright with our royal family. They're decent peeps.

Also, I've read about the British royal family that they stimulate the economy through tourism alone enough to make up for what they cost.

I saw the same thing recently, I think it was from a thread in the Pit.
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