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Old 02-25-2006, 06:45 PM   #81
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Old 02-25-2006, 07:03 PM   #82
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Oh well, ignore them, it's generally know amongst fans as 'schmapp'n schmazz' as the burritos title is about twenty words long.
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Old 02-25-2006, 07:10 PM   #83
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Old 02-25-2006, 09:13 PM   #84
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Old 02-25-2006, 09:14 PM   #85
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Old 02-25-2006, 09:23 PM   #86
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Old 02-25-2006, 09:30 PM   #87
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Yea Senses Fail is too cliche ridden and hackneyed to be essential considering he screams just so he can wake me up, for I have fallen asleep due to the boring and possibly pshychotic lyics. Seriously how many depression/pain killers/tranqs is that guy on?
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Old 02-25-2006, 11:35 PM   #88
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Husker Du's album Zen Arcade pretty much laid down the foundations for what Embrace and Rites Of Spring we're going to do a bit later and I think we can all recall what happened after that.

andrewbiles is pretty much correct, emo is more of the lyrical styling of a hardcore band and the term emo was commonly used as a put-down to kids who listen to indian summer and other bands, it wasn't even a genre at first. A bunch of the first emo bands didn't even consider themselves emo, they all thought they we're hardcore punk. But nowadays with all the emo/screamo bands about, you can discern the exact styling alot easier and the characteristics are more notable since we have all the bands we do now.


Neh. I don't think you can say Zen Arcade was definitive of Rites of Spring sound. Most of the big bands on SST had a large effect on hardcore as a scene. Husker Du specifically added alot of indie rock elements from those bands that were popular at the time. I dunno, to say Emo is a direct derivative of Zen Arcade is extremely odd to me. You might as well include Minor Threat's Discography on there as well as countless other hardcore/post-punk classics. (Damaged,Closer,ETC.)
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Old 02-25-2006, 11:49 PM   #89
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Old 02-26-2006, 01:21 AM   #90
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Neh. I don't think you can say Zen Arcade was definitive of Rites of Spring sound. Most of the big bands on SST had a large effect on hardcore as a scene. Husker Du specifically added alot of indie rock elements from those bands that were popular at the time. I dunno, to say Emo is a direct derivative of Zen Arcade is extremely odd to me. You might as well include Minor Threat's Discography on there as well as countless other hardcore/post-punk classics. (Damaged,Closer,ETC.)


I said it was the definitive sound? Where? It established alot of the sounds (in other words; laid the foundations) rites of spring used later on. Please don't twist my words and treat it like I said it was the first emo album or something.

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Old 02-26-2006, 02:06 AM   #91
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Ok, in no way am I trying to put down "Emo" or anything but I just dont understand the attraction to it..........I see it as something that will fade out along with 95% of most new music and will never be viewed as a "great musical genre." To me it is like a crappy rap song that is number 1 on the charts for a month and then is never heard again and is in no way even comparable to any other genre..........could someone seriously explain the attraction?
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Old 02-26-2006, 04:47 AM   #92
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Ok, in no way am I trying to put down "Emo" or anything but I just dont understand the attraction to it..........I see it as something that will fade out along with 95% of most new music and will never be viewed as a "great musical genre." To me it is like a crappy rap song that is number 1 on the charts for a month and then is never heard again and is in no way even comparable to any other genre..........could someone seriously explain the attraction?


You mightn't like the music nowadays but the stuff from back in the 90's really made an impact.


Check some of those out
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I said it was the definitive sound? Where? It established alot of the sounds (in other words; laid the foundations) rites of spring used later on. Please don't twist my words and treat it like I said it was the first emo album or something.


Way to not even respond to my argument and just criticize me of twisting words.
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Old 02-26-2006, 03:51 PM   #94
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Old 02-26-2006, 04:50 PM   #95
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Coldplay's A Rush of Blood to the Head should be on that there Emo Essentials list. Chris Martin's voice breaks sometimes and his lyrics are emotional.

On a side note, I hear from someone that Chris Martin wrote it about the affair he had with Michelle Nolan's boyfriend.
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Way to not even respond to my argument and just criticize me of twisting words.


Please explain how Zen Arcade didn't influence Rites Of Spring at all. Another thing with your post that says you're getting emo mixed with post-hardcore/post-punk is kind of redundant seeing as emo is basically post hardcore.
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Old 02-26-2006, 05:02 PM   #97
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But the bassist from Embrace has the same first name as the singer of Coldplay, so the musical links are there!

How can you say a band so related to one of the forefathers of this curse we call emo isn't emo!?
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Old 02-26-2006, 05:03 PM   #98
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Close but not.
Post-hardcore relies more on tension, building up, and push an pull feel to songs.
They retain more voice control.
Plus there is more singing in post-hardcore.
Singing is rare in emo.
Very rare.
Even if there is, it is only brief.
Emo, the voice is more out of control.
There's more of a structure to post-hardcore.
(Chorus, verse, verse, breakdown/bridge/interlude)
Emo doesn't really have choruses or anything like that.
Just a massive build up of tension and a release of emotion or just the straight out screaming.
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Old 02-26-2006, 05:05 PM   #99
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^ I thought that was grindcore
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Old 02-26-2006, 05:11 PM   #100
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No.
Grindcore bases itself between new-hardcore and death-metal.
Its alot more techincal.
Has alot of the screaching chords
And a lot of blast beats.

Listen to Ed Gein or As the Sun Sets for grindcore.

The vocals are often indesipherable as well.
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