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Old 03-14-2006, 08:34 AM   #21
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I can't really enjoy his stuff. His voice doesn't appeal to me and he just comes off as pretentious, whether he is or not. I just don't like his whole delivery. And the hipsters who worship him often bother me for some reason so it just makes me not want to even try to like him.
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Old 03-14-2006, 09:27 AM   #22
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Old 03-14-2006, 09:01 PM   #23
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Bright eyes is really good.
I really enjoy Conors lyrics.
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Old 03-15-2006, 03:30 PM   #24
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That's quite a statement.


indeed it is, specially since bright eyes aint' folk
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Old 03-15-2006, 05:42 PM   #25
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^yes he is.
"Oberst is also guitarist and singer for the band Desaparecidos. The music and lyrics of Desaparecidos differ greatly from Bright Eyes, having more in common with punk rock than folk."

taken straight from wikipedia. bright eyes is folk. but wait, there's even more...

http://www.wweek.com/editorial/3115/6019/

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/...storyId=4467515

"If Digital Ash sounds like indie kids breaking into pop, its sister disc, I'm Wide Awake, It's Morning, is a red-blooded folk album..."

^ taken from www.pitchforkmedia.com

http://www.rhapsody.com/brighteyes << check it. its filed under FOLK
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Old 03-15-2006, 06:19 PM   #26
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no, and never use wiki as proof of authority, everything on that site is user submitted, a 12year old in his basement who flunked all his classes has the power to add Bright Eyes to the folk music page of wiki, I could go remove it right now if I wished

leonard cohen, early Dylan, joan baez, woody guthrie, etc are folk

devendra banhart is closer to folk, he's neo-folk, folk revival whatever

bright eyes is just indie. 100% indie, so he uses an acoustic guitar? that makes him folk, noooo.
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Old 03-15-2006, 06:23 PM   #27
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He has quite a few good collaborations, not to mention a lot of music behind him. he's got some talent obviously, but it is personal opinion. Some people can tolerate his voice and shaky style of singing and some can't. I can and I love it.
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Old 03-15-2006, 07:01 PM   #28
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and wiki was only one source. what do you have to say about the other ones? nothing? and in one of them he is compared to bob dylan as a folk artist. oh, wait, didnt conor have a guest folk singer on one of his albums? oh why yes he did in fact. every source i cited describes Bright Eyes and folk or having something to do with folk. its distinct in his style of guitar playing and they way he sings.

you call him indie because folk died a long time ago. but no, he is, in his roots, a folk singer and artist.
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Old 03-15-2006, 07:06 PM   #29
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He has folk infulences yes, but surely that doesn't make him straight up folk.
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Old 03-15-2006, 07:36 PM   #30
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I think he's a pretty good songwriter... but, i don't think he's a very good performer. His lyrics tend to be really well written and thought out and he does do some interesting things musically. But, I think he's trying to hard to be the next John Lennon, Bob Dylan or whomever. Which he'll never be. I wouldn't call myself a fan, but I don't dislike it. Some stuff is really good or great, but a lot of it to me is boring, a lot of it's been done before.

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Old 03-15-2006, 07:41 PM   #31
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Bright Eyes aren't Lo-Fi. They're indie rock.

Lo-fi-
Low fidelity or lo-fi describes a sound recording which contains accidental artifacts, like distortion, or environmental noise, or a recording which has a limited frequency response.

Like I said. Lo-fi Indie Rock. They're not separate things, lo-fi is not it's own genre, it's a style of recording. You can be indie and record lo-fi; in fact, alot of indie bands are that way. Although Bright Eyes is moving away from this style, listen to Lua or anything off A Collection of Songs 95-97, and you'll see it's lo-fi indie.
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Old 03-15-2006, 07:45 PM   #32
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^^ Yeah, that's what lo-fi is. Do people really think it's a musical style? The White Stripes also used a lot of lo-fi recording, as did Guided by Voices. Apparently, they've all got different musical styles.
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Old 03-15-2006, 07:54 PM   #33
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I always thought bright eyes was straight up emo?
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Old 03-15-2006, 08:03 PM   #34
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Bright Eyes is indie indeed, Conor Oberst is an indie icon. But indie is more of a lifestyle not a specific genre. Like grunge it was a scene not a genre. Bright Eyes is alternative in the fact he does do folk things for example I'm Wide Awake It's morning. But most of his stuff isn't so folky, he mixes it up.
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Old 03-15-2006, 08:31 PM   #35
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to be folk conor would have to be trying to reach back to the music that represented his region. Im sure many Nebraskans rode on cattle with keyboards and wrote songs about Winona Ryder.

he'd also have to write a protest song, topical songs with positive outlooks.
Conor's favorite subjects; himself, and comparing our nations leader to hitler.

verdict: not folk.

as for your sources, pitchfork? right, because if theres anyone who can say "i was there, man" when it comes to folk, its pitchfork. you smurfin nailed it.

You call him folk because you are, in your roots, someone who believes everything he/she/n/a reads.
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Old 03-15-2006, 10:08 PM   #36
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no, the lyrics dont make a genre. its the style of which he sings and plays. i've listened to bright eyes. i know what it sounds like. and to me, its sounds pretty folky.
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^what dosnt sound folky to someone who had to google folk to find out what it is!?
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Old 03-15-2006, 11:10 PM   #38
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Pretty good musician. I saw him live with the Faint, and it was pretty cool. I've heard from people who have met him that he is a cocky and pretentious bastard, and he does seem like it.

Also, the whole thing about being the next Bob Dylan is a bit of a joke.

Conor Oberst is good, but nowhere near Bob Dylan's talent.
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Old 03-15-2006, 11:46 PM   #39
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^what dosnt sound folky to someone who had to google folk to find out what it is!?


no, you are wrong again. there was no googling of folk.

maybe you should stop eating up your music so much.
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Old 03-16-2006, 01:56 AM   #40
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I don't think he's cocky, I just think he can be a dick sometimes.
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