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Old 04-19-2006, 04:12 PM   #41
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i guess...strung out, they have some sweet riffs. i dont know how "punk" they are, but the records i have are good...they are fast.
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Old 04-19-2006, 05:05 PM   #42
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Isn't technical punk an oxymoron? When punk music started, it was played as a rebellion AGASINT the technical music of the day. Technical punk wouldn't make any sense.


punkers are against everything so... :P

But, just play what u like. If u play it technical then it (maybe) isn't punk, but who cares?
Afraid u're group can't go in this forum?

If u think like punkers do...then it's punk for me...otherwise it's just good/bad music :P

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Old 04-19-2006, 09:05 PM   #43
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punk doesn't need to be technical
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Old 04-19-2006, 09:10 PM   #44
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punkers are against everything so... :P

But, just play what u like. If u play it technical then it (maybe) isn't punk, but who cares?
Afraid u're group can't go in this forum?

If u think like punkers do...then it's punk for me...otherwise it's just good/bad music :P

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Anyway, simplicity is welcomed and accepted in punk but it's entirely possible for it to be technical. (i.e. Toy Dolls, Black Flag, No Cash)
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Old 04-19-2006, 09:12 PM   #45
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Old 04-20-2006, 01:15 PM   #46
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Anyway, simplicity is welcomed and accepted in punk but it's entirely possible for it to be technical. (i.e. Toy Dolls, Black Flag, No Cash)


yes! So what?
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Old 04-20-2006, 08:25 PM   #47
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Anyway, simplicity is welcomed and accepted in punk but it's entirely possible for it to be technical. (i.e. Toy Dolls, Black Flag, No Cash)


Black Flag is very simple... at least their bass parts are i guess greg is king of the sloppy solos so that makes them pretty technical.
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Old 04-21-2006, 06:27 PM   #48
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Real punk doesn't exist anymore. I'm talking about where it all started with the Ramones, The Clash, and The Sex Pistols. The punk ideals at that time were about being different from everyone else and not giving a **** if people liked the music. The music wasn't for the audience anyway; it was for the artist. It wasn't about making money and being successful.

Now all the punk that exists is just termed punk, but it's more rock than anything. True punk is no longer alive.
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Old 04-21-2006, 06:42 PM   #49
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Punk exists, you clearly don't know what you're talking about.

And I have to agree with some that the Toy Dolls are a GREAT example of technical punk.
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Old 04-21-2006, 07:13 PM   #50
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how about Gang of Four? not really straight up punk but tasty nonetheless. it's almost like...caveman improvisational jazz with mohawks and tweed blazers. it's simplicity at it's most complex. yeah...
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Old 04-21-2006, 07:17 PM   #51
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Real punk doesn't exist anymore. I'm talking about where it all started with the Ramones, The Clash, and The Sex Pistols. The punk ideals at that time were about being different from everyone else and not giving a **** if people liked the music. The music wasn't for the audience anyway; it was for the artist. It wasn't about making money and being successful.

Now all the punk that exists is just termed punk, but it's more rock than anything. True punk is no longer alive.


shut the F*ck up. you have no idea what your talking about.
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Old 04-21-2006, 08:43 PM   #52
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Real punk doesn't exist anymore. I'm talking about where it all started with the Ramones, The Clash, and The Sex Pistols. The punk ideals at that time were about being different from everyone else and not giving a **** if people liked the music. The music wasn't for the audience anyway; it was for the artist. It wasn't about making money and being successful.

Now all the punk that exists is just termed punk, but it's more rock than anything. True punk is no longer alive.



It all started WELL before The Ramones, The Clash adn The Sex Pistols Mr.Punk Expert. I'm not even going to comment on the following sentance that followed other than this: You really have no idea what you're talking about do you?
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Old 04-21-2006, 09:30 PM   #53
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Real punk doesn't exist anymore. I'm talking about where it all started with the Ramones, The Clash, and The Sex Pistols. The punk ideals at that time were about being different from everyone else and not giving a **** if people liked the music. The music wasn't for the audience anyway; it was for the artist. It wasn't about making money and being successful.

Now all the punk that exists is just termed punk, but it's more rock than anything. True punk is no longer alive.


Listen to Blanks '77 and tell me it's not punk.
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Old 04-21-2006, 09:38 PM   #54
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Don't want to take my word for it? Look it up on Wikipedia-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punk_music
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punk_ideology

-then tell me I don't know what I'm talking about.
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Old 04-21-2006, 09:44 PM   #55
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^ You don't know what you're talking about.


EDIT: You came here and made an ignorant statement and your idea of backing it up is ,"But the internet says so!",?


EDIT 2: Not only that but the links you provided give the exact opposite of what you said.
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Old 04-21-2006, 09:57 PM   #56
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Don't want to take my word for it? Look it up on Wikipedia-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punk_music
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punk_ideology

-then tell me I don't know what I'm talking about.


"There is still a thriving punk scene in North America, Japan and Europe. The widespread availability of the Internet and file sharing programs enables bands who would otherwise not be heard outside of their local scene to garner larger followings, and is in keeping with the DIY ethic championed by some earlier punk bands. Many punk bands retain the political streak of their forebears. The political ascendency of George W. Bush and Tony Blair have inspired both songs and political action, such as the Rock Against Bush movement, that can be compared to the original rage at Reagan and Thatcher."

You just disproved yourself. Nice job.
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Old 04-21-2006, 11:20 PM   #57
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Wikipedia is also submitted by normal people...not professionals on a topic...

I've seen a bunch of incorrect stuff on there.
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Old 04-21-2006, 11:27 PM   #58
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Don't want to take my word for it? Look it up on Wikipedia-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punk_music
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punk_ideology

-then tell me I don't know what I'm talking about.



haha you used wikipedia as your back up. half that **** is entered by dumb f*cks like yourself.
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Old 04-22-2006, 05:09 AM   #59
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Real punk doesn't exist anymore. I'm talking about where it all started with the Ramones, The Clash, and The Sex Pistols. The punk ideals at that time were about being different from everyone else and not giving a **** if people liked the music. The music wasn't for the audience anyway; it was for the artist. It wasn't about making money and being successful.

Now all the punk that exists is just termed punk, but it's more rock than anything. True punk is no longer alive.



There still is underground (I guess that's what u talkin bout) punk, in the Netherlands (I don't know this from internet no...), in belgium a little, and in England too I think.

And loudnsnotty, will ya just STFU, u feel though because u know the word f*ck? sheez how old are u?

And it's true that the music wasn't ment for making money and being succesfull...But that punk still excist...Lot of "punk" groups now are actually no punk, it doesn't mean I don't like there music tho

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