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Old 06-09-2011, 09:26 AM   #3321
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The John Taylor clip ain't bad, it's miles superior to the Della Vega stuff.

On the other hand, I'm still hearing a bit of slop around the edges and I would LOVE to hear it without the ****ing MIDI playing over the guitar part. >.<

(and clean tone would be nice as well, like this one http://community.guinnessworldrecor...93243/7691.html )
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Old 07-06-2011, 01:37 AM   #3322
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Oli Herbert should be on this list. He plays 16 nps alternate picking in the song hold on, which is at 125 bpm and they are 32nd notes!!!!!!
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Old 07-08-2011, 11:59 PM   #3323
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Dude what about Chris Broderick? I bet he's the fastest of them all.
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Old 07-11-2011, 05:05 AM   #3324
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Possibly a slight bump for Jeff Loomis, since Psalm of Lydia calculations presented by Hammer force didnt suffice
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According to the tab anyways those sweeps are 13.3 nps (48 notes per bar in 6/4 timing i assume to be the same as 32nds at 4/4) other than that the fastest bit in the main solo there is apparently 1 time where he plays 13 notes/beat (once which is 21.6 nps alt picked) twice in a row 11 notes/beat (18.3 nps alt picked).


x - BPM
y- notes per beat

x*y/60

Enemies of Reality solo, according to GP5 tab on this site Jeff does a triplet. few 5's and then a single burst of 11's at a speed of 134 BPM (4/4)

134*11/60=24.566666666666667nps


then there's some bends, some some tapping yada yada. And one more burst of 13's (3 string sweep/legato) at the same 134BPM speed

134*13/60=29.03nps

legit?

tab sounds correct

http://imageshack.us/g/718/jeffloomisnps2eor.png/

two screenshots of the parts i am talking about


^ Chris is good, very good, but his betcha cant play this entries arent very fast
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Old 08-08-2011, 07:36 PM   #3325
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As a rule of thumb, all tabs on this site are wrong. Especially tabs which include fast parts. IMO, the only way to find out how fast someone is playing is by listening to the recording itself.
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Old 08-08-2011, 07:40 PM   #3326
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What do you think most transcribers are doing? Besides, lots of factors influence perceived speed - I actually ran an objective test a few years back and people are pretty bad at hearing what speed a perfectly clean MIDI track is. Never mind a guitar solo drenched in delay in the middle of the mix.

Not that the list is anywhere near perfect, ofco.
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Old 08-08-2011, 07:45 PM   #3327
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What do you think most transcribers are doing? Besides, lots of factors influence perceived speed - I actually ran an objective test a few years back and people are pretty bad at hearing what speed a perfectly clean MIDI track is. Never mind a guitar solo drenched in delay in the middle of the mix.

Not that the list is anywhere near perfect, ofco.


Lol, I should have said 'by listening to the recording and knowing what you're doing.'

I don't mean just listening and saying 'I reckon that's 21nps.' I mean slowing down the track + getting 1nps segments and counting the notes/ working out the tempo and how many notes are played per beat. I used to post here a few years ago back when Willjay was on the scene, so I know the drill.

In all seriousness though, I have almost never seen a flawless tab on this site for the likes of Dream Theater, Gilbert, etc. Most of them are substantially wrong. If you know of any exceptions, please do tell.
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Old 08-08-2011, 07:58 PM   #3328
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^ I don't learn shred songs, so I don't see many advanced tabs. There are good transcriptions out there and some of the ones from this list come from professional transcriptions. Some are amateur. Some are from the players own GP/PT files.

I don't have excellent ears and I hate listening through slowdowners. I compile and rank, and I apply a moderate amount of quality control. The main reason for this list is to stop a different thread every week with even worse uneducated responses.

I will vouch for a few of the very fastest ones though - Derryl Gable and Francesco's come from their own practice files or from MIDI in from the guitar, and the Shawn Lane one I did personally, as I was very familiar with the lick in question and felt pretty confident about timing it roughly.
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Old 09-01-2011, 05:42 PM   #3329
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Dave murray from iron maidenn plays 20 notes per second during the sign of the cross solo. Its tapping though

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Old 10-21-2011, 02:10 PM   #3330
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I don't have a clue what techniques my friend Andy is using on his songs, all I know is that most guitarists give him props... Maybe someone can have a listen and enlighten me
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Old 10-26-2011, 08:42 PM   #3331
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So the John Taylor clip is good enough for the guiness book of world records, but not for the bedroom wanksteens running the shred forum? Haha, you guys need to get out more.

I think the whole guitar speed competition is lame to begin with, but to actually take the time to make this list and leave off the guy with the world record because you "hear some slop around the edges" is laughable. I'd say it's about as clean as you'll get anyone picking 40 NPS.

But then again, it is possible that I haven't masterbated to enough Shawn Lane records to have reached your level of shred enlightenment. (Nothing against Shawn, he was the man.)
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Old 10-27-2011, 06:25 AM   #3332
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So the John Taylor clip is good enough for the guiness book of world records, but not for the bedroom wanksteens running the shred forum? Haha, you guys need to get out more.

I think the whole guitar speed competition is lame to begin with, but to actually take the time to make this list and leave off the guy with the world record because you "hear some slop around the edges" is laughable. I'd say it's about as clean as you'll get anyone picking 40 NPS.


Sorry, who?

*some googling later*

Yeah, I don't think he's cleanly hitting all those notes - the midi in the background is very deceiving. I don't know if you know, but Guinness have an awful track record with this stuff, I'll take my ears over Guinesss any day. :P

Don't get me wrong, John has sick chops, and he's a much better picker than Tiago... but he's not hitting that all cleanly at 600bpm. If there wasn't a midi background, or he used less ridiculous amounts of gain I'd be much less wary of including it.

I can hear more than slop round the edges, I can hear mistakes at like, 300, 330.

And finally, this list doesn't include people just trying to break speed records. That's a horrible race to the bottom where people just try to play the easiest things to spazz pick.
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Old 11-18-2011, 06:58 AM   #3333
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http://www.reverbnation.com/andysartori.


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Old 11-18-2011, 08:23 AM   #3334
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Old 02-13-2012, 02:05 AM   #3335
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glenn proudfoot sweeps incredibly fast

i still think buckethead is the best shredder
but tosin is the best guitarist in terms of skill and technique
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Old 02-13-2012, 02:24 AM   #3336
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anyone own the guitar world magazine with tony iomi on the cover?
its got the soothsayer tab

i just uploaded a guitar pro with a few measures from bar 106

soothsayer
q = 74
in measure 150 he plays a run of
10 32nd notes grouped in 10's
then 33 32nd notes grouped in 11's

how many notes per second is that?


all i know is buckethead is fast

so if we have 43 notes at 74 bpm
thats 60/74 x 43 = 34.86 nps? am i doing that right?
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Old 03-16-2012, 09:38 AM   #3337
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though this is, yet again, not an acceptable performance for an official world record, here is tiago della vega playing at 750bpm (50 notes per second).

and just for the sake of humor here is some guy playing waaaaay worse lol http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A2xG...feature=related


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anyone own the guitar world magazine with tony iomi on the cover?
its got the soothsayer tab

i just uploaded a guitar pro with a few measures from bar 106

soothsayer
q = 74
in measure 150 he plays a run of
10 32nd notes grouped in 10's
then 33 32nd notes grouped in 11's

how many notes per second is that?


all i know is buckethead is fast

so if we have 43 notes at 74 bpm
thats 60/74 x 43 = 34.86 nps? am i doing that right?

43 notes within four beats? 74/4=18.5 x 43 = 795.5/60 = 13.2583 notes per second

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Old 05-14-2012, 03:46 PM   #3338
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I don't see Buckethead on the list.
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Old 05-14-2012, 03:47 PM   #3339
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Didn't look very hard.
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