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Old 05-29-2006, 08:03 PM   #41
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Fp you should add that Kai Hansen one at just over 18 that i sent you a few months back.

Man Shawn Lane scares me :O
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Old 05-29-2006, 08:26 PM   #42
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Whats the song? And if you've got a tab you'll no doubt be able to find a faster section than 19.3 if its an average.



Serrana-Live in Japan.

At 140 bpm it takes 40 seconds for the part to play. Jason plays that exact same part in 29 seconds. That means that he plays the same peice at a 1.3793x rate. Since the powertab is played at 14 nps at 140 bpm, that means that in the live version he plays

14x1.3793=19.31 notes per second averaged over 29 seconds.

But the thing is, some parts he plays slower than others, and very well may range from 16-22 nps. The thing is, we never known exactly how fast he gets, so I think it's unfair to guess a random high point on that peice (such as 21.34234 etc). That's why I think it makes more sense to just document it as:

19.31 nps averaged over 29 seconds.


http://video.google.com/videoplay?d...a+live+in+japan





Edit: And some more Becker:

The later part of Paganini's 5th is consistantly 16 nps alternate picking, with few parts hitting 21.3 nps.

In Altitudes, 16 nps is maintained for a considerable while. (alt pick/sweeping/arpeggiating combo)

In Mabel's Fatal Fable, 17.3 nps is maintained for multiple seconds. (Alt picked)

In Grilled Peeps Becker consistantly hits 16 nps, with one miniscule bit hitting 20 nps. The 20 nps is for so short a time period however that it is pretty much negligible. (Alt picked)

In Perpetual Burn, Becker maintains 18.3 nps (sweeps)

In Black Cat Becker sweeps 17.73 nps for a few seconds.

In Desert Island Becker hits 18.67 nps on a single string alt pick run. This one is WAY too shaky to be credibile however.


Song Titles are Italicized, NPS, and Length are Bolded.


CONCLUSION:

Fastest sweeps are at 19.31+ nps
Fastest Alt. Picking is at 21.3 nps.

So, he'll definitely give Yngwie a run for his money, but doesn't come close to touching Lane.


Last thing, these are ALL (besides the Serrana sweep) taken from Power Tab, so the results are not absolute. However, I do think they reflect a somewhat accurate representation of the pieces, with some parts being quicker, and some being slower.
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Old 05-29-2006, 09:02 PM   #43
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Old 05-29-2006, 09:44 PM   #44
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how fast can the fastest players tremolo?
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John McLaughlin hits 33.3 NPS on Birds Of Fire (Alt picked and string skipping)
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Old 05-29-2006, 11:49 PM   #49
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Old 05-30-2006, 12:39 AM   #51
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I had it on my comp before...but I deleted, tried redling it but it wasn't showing on ares. =(
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I don't really see what the big deal with anchoring is... 2 of the fastest players in the world (Fareri and Batio) both anchor so it can't impede your playing that much...


Sure, but thats sweeping, and fareri and batio dont exactly have the most fluent picking technique...

I've never seen any fareri string skipping yet. And while MAB is uber-clean, he's not Rusty, Gilbert, or Shawn fast. You can see it holding him back. Its a matter of freedom, which, if you look at the lines those guys play, you find it hard to believe they have.

Oh, and can you link me to the race into the light tab you're using? And thanks for ordering them.

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I can't find that on the GP or PT version. Nothing even REMOTELY that fast. I think the time sigs messing with your calculations, because nowhere am i seeing the density of notes required for that kinda speed...


Oh, and Kai Hansen, Rebellion in Dreamland 18nps, alternate picked.
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So you're not going to add any of the Becker info?
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So the fastest alternately plectrumed is John Petrucci? Seems like everyone else is doing legato runs.
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I will, i will... When im done in this thread.

And no, petrucci's not the fastest picker. Rusty's faster on the updated list, the old list and to anyone's ears. Thats not even bringing up Shawn. And there are a lot of uberfast legato lines because, simply, it's easier (generally) to play the same line faster legato.
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John McLaughlin hits 33.3 NPS on Birds Of Fire (Alt picked and string skipping)



There is no way in HELL that the part at 2:47 is anywhere NEAR 33.3 nps.
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The power tab I used to get the impellitteri info is the one on this site...

This one right here...

Its the [G] Guitar solo [1:22] part... the first bar. He plays 3 beats of quintuplets and one beat of sextuplets. Correct me if I'm wrong The first three bars of the solo are all pretty damn fast, between 16.8 and 17.8 nps. And all alt picked

Personally I'd say Fareri is the fastest alt picker, watch this video , quite near the start he does this insane lick (well its not really melodic enough to call it a lick so I use the term gently). Its gotta be pretty damn fast, I'm no Cooley expert but thats the fastest alt picking I've seen.

EDIT: That McLaughlin lick is 13nps. Whoever made that out to be 33 needs to redo their maths education...

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Yah, he's a beast. That's got to be near the 22s if not higher.
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