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Old 07-02-2006, 07:04 PM   #1
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All Radio Head Fans *kid 17*

It has recently come to my attention that if you play two copies of Radioheads Kid A album it syncs up quite well. I was a bit sceptical thinking it was only a fluke or a few coincidinces, so I decided to try it for myself. I got a recording program and played each song 17 seconds apart from each other and the results are quite stunning. I believe it worked best with the songs Kid A and Everything in its right place which i have titled Kid 17 and Everything 17. I am not sure if this is intentional by the band or a coincidence, so you can be the judge. Take note of the vocal effect that seems to be taken on in Kid 17 around the 2 minute mark.


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Old 07-02-2006, 08:07 PM   #2
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Only listened to 'everything in its right place' that you've uploaded there, and I have to say that it isn't bad like that.
How did you manage to realise this?
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Old 07-02-2006, 08:10 PM   #3
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lol damn I thought i was going to have one of those ghost town threads. anyways yeah I read it off a obscure radiohead fansite , check out the other one it works just was well
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Old 07-02-2006, 09:22 PM   #4
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Supposedly unintentional, and isn't really all that amazing though I've never tried it. How the hell someone figures that out in the first place is beyond me.
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Old 07-02-2006, 09:45 PM   #5
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Supposedly unintentional, and isn't really all that amazing though I've never tried it. How the hell someone figures that out in the first place is beyond me.

Thom Yorke himself said it. I'm pretty sure it was intentional (however probably only partially)... I've never tried it but I've been wanting to.
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Old 07-03-2006, 12:47 AM   #6
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well then go ahead and listen for yourself
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Old 07-03-2006, 01:20 AM   #7
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Thom Yorke himself said it. I'm pretty sure it was intentional (however probably only partially)... I've never tried it but I've been wanting to.


Ah, I thought it was just a fan who realized it.
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Old 07-03-2006, 06:33 AM   #8
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I'm pretty sure it was intentional (however probably only partially)...


Although the guys in Radiohead are a lot smarter than myself, I don't see how you can do that intentionally when making a record.
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Old 07-03-2006, 09:38 AM   #9
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Kid A is in my top 50 albums but this whole 17 second sync thing just don't float my boat
 
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Although the guys in Radiohead are a lot smarter than myself, I don't see how you can do that intentionally when making a record.

Pink Floyd did the similar thing with DSOTM and Wizard of Oz. Although you're right; how would you intentionally do that?
Chances are Yorke tried it through with a bunch of different second intervals, and found out that 17 sounded pretty good.
However, there's always that slight freakish chance that it was entirely intentional. That'd be ridiculous, though.
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Old 07-03-2006, 05:43 PM   #11
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Although the guys in Radiohead are a lot smarter than myself, I don't see how you can do that intentionally when making a record.


not that they're at the same level of genius, but bach wrote contrapuntal stuff that worked as well forwards as it did backwards, and a lot of other crazy stuff like that, so it's quite possible, you just have to be working on another level.
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^ But writing stuff fowards and backwards is reasonably simple, you've just got to know the tonal changes and lengths of notes well. Writing a song to be compatible with itself 17 seconds later is ridiculously hard. It'd effectively mean that you'd have to write/record 17 seconds at a time for a whole album.
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^ But writing stuff fowards and backwards is reasonably simple, you've just got to know the tonal changes and lengths of notes well. Writing a song to be compatible with itself 17 seconds later is ridiculously hard. It'd effectively mean that you'd have to write/record 17 seconds at a time for a whole album.

And you're suggesting that Radiohead is a band that lacks the studio comprehension to handle that kind of thing? I love Radiohead, and if there's one thing that screams from their albums, it's over-overproduction.
What I'm saying is that I'm siding more towards you, that yeah, it's pretty unlikely it was made that way, but Radiohead are so brilliant that you have to at least consider that maybe it was intentional. Unreasonable in the amount of work that would take, but possible.
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^ I'm not saying they couldn't and wouldn't do it (Radiohead and Tool are the only two bands I wouldn't count this kind of stuff out with), I'm just saying its very unlikely that they did it on purpose.
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Oooolllllllldddddddddd news. I knew that 5/6 years ago when the album was new and people figured it out then.
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Old 07-03-2006, 06:24 PM   #16
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I just synced it with my iTunes and windows media players to 'roughly' 17 seconds, and found it quite amazing. Whether or not it was intentional to me seems beyond the point. Fact of the matter is that it actually 'kind of' works.

FYI, 17 seconds during that song is about Beat 5 of the 3rd 10/4 bar.
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^ I'm not saying they couldn't and wouldn't do it (Radiohead and Tool are the only two bands I wouldn't count this kind of stuff out with), I'm just saying its very unlikely that they did it on purpose.

Right, and I pretty much agree with you there. We're both on the same page.
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Old 07-04-2006, 12:11 AM   #18
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lol wow i like Everything In Right Place like this
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^ But writing stuff fowards and backwards is reasonably simple, you've just got to know the tonal changes and lengths of notes well. Writing a song to be compatible with itself 17 seconds later is ridiculously hard. It'd effectively mean that you'd have to write/record 17 seconds at a time for a whole album.


is it really that different from writing canons? i mean, song chords repeat themselves anyway, it's not like theres a random bridge that perfectly syncs up with a verse 17 seconds later.
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