oioi77oioi

Ok, I know with the major scale, it is WWHWWWHW. But, what is the minor scale's Wholes and Halves? oh...and just curious to see if I'm right or not.....


Emaj 02357910

Would that be correct?

fwibble

well the natural minor in the way you want it would be - WHWWHWW

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oioi77oioi

so Amaj would be 1 3 4 6 8 9 11 12?

ifeastonbums

There are three varaitions of the Minor scale
Natural Minor-WhWWhWW
Harmonic Minor- can be made by raising the 7th note of a Natural Minor half a step
Melodic Minor-can be made by raising the 6th and 7th note of a Natural Minor half a step

I know it's a bit more than you asked for but it's 730 in the morning I'm bored and felt like using my limited thoery knowledge

Johnljones7443

You should work on minor scales in reference to the major scale using the scale degrees. Most things in theory come down to how notes relate to the major scale.

Major Scale Formula: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 1.
Minor Scale Formula: 1 2 b3 4 5 b6 b7 1.

oioi77oioi

you took a simple question, requiring a simple answer and confused the hell out of me. Thanks.

Johnljones7443

^Oh, I'm sorry.

My answer was simple, of course that's relative - as you're a beginner I guess it might have confused you and I apologise.

I'll go into detail.

After you've used the WWHWWWH to figure out your major scale - it's a lot more effecient to use the minor scale degree formula, instead of a new whole-tone half-tone formula.

Once you've figured out your major scale, try labelling each note with a scale degree - the scale degree formula of the major scale is: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 1. Perhaps it would look something like this when you've finished.



Now, I assume you know and understand flats(b) and sharps(#) - using the minor scale formula, you can figure out the notes of the minor scale in reference to the major scale without having to count whole-steps and half-steps all over again.

The formula for the minor scale is: 1 2 b3 4 5 b6 b7 1. The 3rd, 6th and 7th note of this formula all contain a flat(b) - meaning, that in reference to the major scale, they are to be flat down half a step.

Using this logic - you should be able to work out the paralell minor scale by flatting the 3rd, 6th and 7th note of the major scale. Now try writing out the C minor scale in comparison with the C major scale. It might look like this.



Do you see what's happened using the scale degree formula?

I hope you understand after that explanation, and I hope I haven't confused you even more.

ifeastonbums

Man I don't care if you confused him any more. I understand that!!

notoriousnumber

Heres an article I wrote recently explaining all your worrys and needs.....concerning The Minor Scales that is.

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Johnljones7443

That's good - glad I could help.



That's a nice article - but I was more concerned with getting him to look at the minor scale in relation to the major scale using scale degrees & notes.

For me anyway, it has been a lot more efficient and crystal than using a new whole-tone/half-tone pattern for each scale - and in particular modes.