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Old 05-03-2008, 06:21 PM   #61
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its not actually that difficult to play at all...broken down like that it seems dead complicated, but if you actually just "feel" the groove of the song as you play it as opposed to trying to count it, its is not too hard at all...


edit: ^and i was under the impression that it was a pretty common occurance in their sets...
All true. I don't think time signatures would put tool off playing a song. When they last came to sydney they played schism both nights.
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Old 05-03-2008, 06:49 PM   #62
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its not actually that difficult to play at all...broken down like that it seems dead complicated, but if you actually just "feel" the groove of the song as you play it as opposed to trying to count it, its is not too hard at all...

Indeed. I could never play the first riff to Rush's YYZ by staring at the transcription. Instead it came to me by singing it in my head.
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Old 05-03-2008, 06:56 PM   #63
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meshuggah uses some.. ehem.. very odd time sigs, like in rational gaze, that somehow end up counting out to 4/4 over the span of 5 or so measures of changes.

for straight 7/4, one of dark tranquillity's songs off of fiction has 7/4 in at least part of it. its either icipher or empty me, i cant remember which exactly.
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Old 09-04-2008, 02:26 PM   #64
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take the veil cerpin taxt. by the mars volta. it has some wierd time sigs. one of the solos in it is in 19/16 time. sounds pretty cool
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Old 09-05-2008, 07:36 PM   #65
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Faust Arp by Radiohead is like one bar of 4/4, one bar of 9/8, one more of 4/4, one of 2/4 and repeats like that. The Pyramid song is 16/4 I think.

A different genre, but the Rites of Spring by Stravinsky has awesome metres and rhythms.
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Old 12-30-2008, 02:33 PM   #66
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I take it that doesn't make its way into their live setlists too often, eh?


It is on their set all the time, it's as regular as Stinkfist.

It's actually far more complicated to read than to actually play. I'm a drummer and for the the main body of the song, I simply think of it as subdivisions: 5/8 + 7/8 (a straightforward 12 beat) The only trick is ensuring you control the phrasing and don't drop the ball :-)

The "communication" part between the verses adds the extra 8th to the first division, so it becomes 6/8 + 7/8 (13 beats, which is unusual, as to me it actually flows more evenly than the verses when playing it)
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Old 12-30-2008, 07:15 PM   #67
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Metallica often switches time signatures such as in One
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Old 12-30-2008, 08:03 PM   #68
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Steve Vai - Attitude Song is in 7/16
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Old 03-08-2009, 11:35 PM   #69
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My two favourites;
Soundgarden - Never the Machine Forever (9/8)
Radiohead - 15 Step (5/4)

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Old 03-09-2009, 03:32 AM   #70
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as said, dance of eternity, 124 different time signature changes along with all dream theatre songs.
necrophagist are good with time signature changes, i honestly can't count it with the mix of 240bpm and about 12 different time signatures per song
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Old 03-09-2009, 09:06 PM   #71
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Subdivisions by Rush is a good example. Catchy tune too!.

I analyzed it a while ago. The Chorus is something like 4 bars of 8/8 time followed by a bar of 7/8 followed by 2 bars of 8/8 with a section somewhere in 5/4 etc

In regards to Dance of Eternity there's a 2 part youtube video of Mike Portnoy breaking down the song into all the sections
it's roughly like 5/4 then 7/8 back to 5/4 followed by 8/8 7/8 6/8 6/8 etc blah

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Old 03-09-2009, 10:10 PM   #72
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Pretty much anything by Dream Theatre, like The Dance of Eternity which has about 15 different time signatures in it!

i read somewhere that that song had 104 timing changes.

(not 104 different time signatures, 104 time changes)


but thats still insane lmao
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Old 03-10-2009, 03:14 PM   #74
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Gorillaz - "5/4" it's in 5/4

Also a polyrhythm, because the drum and (not sure about this one) the vocals are in 4/4.
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Old 03-10-2009, 03:15 PM   #75
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I would much rather listen to something with a compound (I think that's the word) time signature like 6/8 or better yet, 3/4+2/4. I love that one. Then again, 3/4+2/4 is the same as 5/4, yes?
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Old 03-10-2009, 03:21 PM   #76
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Stravinsky's The Rite Of Spring has pretty bizarre rhythms iirc.
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Then again, 3/4+2/4 is the same as 5/4, yes?

Yes 'tis.
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Old 03-10-2009, 05:26 PM   #78
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If I can remember right, "To Daimonian" by Mayhem has sections of 15/16 time.

Edit: Or that's what my guitar teacher described it as.

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Old 03-10-2009, 05:42 PM   #79
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your sure it aint 10/4 seeing as theres no such thing as a "10"th note


4/10 is a valid time signature, but only when put in the context of a work with another time signature. Alone, it would be far better described as 4/4 (or 4/8).
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4/10 is a valid time signature, but only when put in the context of a work with another time signature. Alone, it would be far better described as 4/4 (or 4/8).


what would 4/10 be?
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