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Old 12-28-2006, 02:44 PM   #61
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I look at John as a great blues guitarist, but as a commercial pop-artist.
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Old 12-28-2006, 02:50 PM   #62
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Old 12-28-2006, 03:39 PM   #63
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I respect him as a guitar player, but i don't like his pop very much. And i got the feeling that he was more of a Clapton ripoff than a SRV ripoff on a lot of his songs.

EDIT: And i don't mean ripoff in a bad sense. I'm just saying he seems more Clapton influenced than SRV influenced on some stuff. The SRV influence is undoubtedly there, though.

EDIT II: There is one thing that we have to give to Mayer, though. He has some AMAZING gear.
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Old 12-28-2006, 03:43 PM   #64
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He's very good, but his stuff with the John Mayer trio is such a blatant copy of Jimi Hendrix and SRV, you can't deny it. I mean, its not bad to be influenced, but to sound exactly like them down to the tone and style of playing is a bit much.
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Old 12-28-2006, 04:00 PM   #65
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'gravity', 'i got a woman', 'dont need no doctor' i dont see it so much in songs like those. i mean the latter of the two are R. Charles covers if im not mistaken.
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Old 12-28-2006, 07:03 PM   #66
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I respect him as a guitar player, but i don't like his pop very much. And i got the feeling that he was more of a Clapton ripoff than a SRV ripoff on a lot of his songs.

EDIT: And i don't mean ripoff in a bad sense. I'm just saying he seems more Clapton influenced than SRV influenced on some stuff. The SRV influence is undoubtedly there, though.

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I agree with the Clapton thing. Everyone says that he is a blatant SRV ripoff and he never came off that way to me. JMT was great but I dont really like his pop stuff. He is headed in the same path Clapton did, great guitarist but releases pop albums. But whatever if he likes it more power to him.
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Old 12-29-2006, 02:02 PM   #67
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Old 12-29-2006, 02:30 PM   #68
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Old 12-29-2006, 05:11 PM   #70
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EDIT: And i don't mean ripoff in a bad sense. I'm just saying he seems more Clapton influenced than SRV influenced on some stuff. The SRV influence is undoubtedly there, though.


The Clapton influence is his ability to take the blues idiom and make 'blues-pop' out of it.
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Old 12-29-2006, 10:54 PM   #71
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The Clapton influence is his ability to take the blues idiom and make 'blues-pop' out of it.




I nearly expected a response like that from you.

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...it works too, i respect him trying to bring a blues revival back
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Yea he is trying to revive the blues, especially when he play Sweet Home Chicago on Conan when he didn't have anything to promote at the time.
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true, i liked that cover too...it was damn good
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Yea he is trying to revive the blues, especially when he play Sweet Home Chicago on Conan when he didn't have anything to promote at the time.



i saw when he played that, it was good


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^Tab it exatcly down to every note, probably but it'll take alot of work, I think UG has the Sweet Home Chicago tab, just go from there.
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There's no questioning his talent as a guitarist. As for the whole Hendrix/SRV ripoff thing, I can hear their influence but that doesn't make him a ripoff. He pulls it off well, it sounds good, it's not terribly original, but neither are a lot of blues players, that doesn't mean they aren't good. I have to say I'm surprised though, I expected 10X as many anti-Mayer posters.
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thats becuz people either realized that they can talk here if they respect him or not post...plus that hes an amazing musician
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I just can't seem to respect Mayer, he's too damn arrogant.


Blues guys are notorious for having huge egos. Lightnin' Hopkins remark to Billy Gibbons is an example of this; "Lightnin' change when Lightnin' want to." Apart from that Extra! interview where he said he's the only pop musician that can make the transition to blues and not lose fans, which I think is true, I haven't heard anything of the "I'm the shit" variety come out of his mouth. If he has though, please enlighten me.
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Apart from that Extra! interview where he said he's the only pop musician that can make the transition to blues and not lose fans, which I think is true, I haven't heard anything of the "I'm the shit" variety come out of his mouth. If he has though, please enlighten me.


thats all ive heard as well, hes a good guy. my bro was working security at a show and allowed him to come back after the show to talk. from what ive seen he respects the fans and appreciates all hes got going for him
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