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Old 11-04-2014, 06:15 AM   #1
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do emotions even matter

This came to my mind while reading the 'what's wrong with you all' thread or whatever but I didn't want to ruin that thread's feel good vibes.

Anyway, I'm playing the first Bioshock Infinite Burial at Sea DLC, and Sander Cohen's character (which was also in the first Bioshock) kinda reminded me how much of a joke art (especially high-brow art) is to society. Everyone appreciates music, everyone has a song or fifty that really nails them in the feels, but for the most part, it seems to me that everyone kinda agrees that most art of any kind is just pretentious melodramatic bullshit that panders to people's emotions just so people can get through the monotonous emotionless humdrum of everyday life.

I'm genuinely not sure how much of that above paragraph is just me, and I've really been trying to cut down on cynicism lately, so what do you think: do day-to-day emotions matter, and how important is art in today's world? Does it do anything more than just keep people's emotions somewhat stable throughout the roller coaster of life? Is there any sort of discussion that can be made of this, or is it just me trying to ascertain meaning where there is none?

If you have nothing to add, just post songs.

edit: I guess I wouldn't call the other thread feel-good, but I can tell it's convalescent, cathartic. This thread probably won't be tbh

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Old 11-04-2014, 06:20 AM   #2
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Modern art is dumb

That's my input.

Here's a sad song tho

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Old 11-04-2014, 06:41 AM   #3
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I don't think anything really matters, and I don't mean that in a depressed we-might-as-well-be-dead kinda way. I don't think the world would be a better or worse place if there were no emotions. It would just be different. Emotions are just something we got as living beings somewhere down the line, probably because it was helpful in some way, or perhaps we only have them because they haven't killed us yet.

In short, emotions don't matter, but we have them, so what can you do about it?

As far as art goes, it's just something you can devote yourself to. Nothing has meaning unless you give it meaning, and with art you can go 'an apple appeals to me for whatever reason, I want to take what I feel when I look at an apple, and then convert that feeling into something else'.
Some people devote themselves to a god so that their life can mean something, some to science, some to a leader, some to their loved ones, some to art, some to a specific cause or ideal. And you can pretty much combine those the way you want.
Honing your craft is just a way of having something to devote yourself to.
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Old 11-04-2014, 06:43 AM   #4
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I haven't consumed or created much art over the past few months and I can tell you straightaway that this has not diminished my capacity for emotion a single bit. I don't think life is humdrum and monotonous at all even when running errands or commuting or whatever. I think knowing how to express your emotions is important and art can be a useful tool for this, though it doesn't necessarily have to include or elicit emotion to be considered art.

I think that entire second paragraph is just you because i'd like to think more people feel the same way as me about this, but of course I might be entirely wrong in which case I will cling to my emotions. I think life is inherently meaningful.
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Old 11-04-2014, 06:44 AM   #5
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Emotions are all that matter.
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Old 11-04-2014, 06:55 AM   #6
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Old 11-04-2014, 06:59 AM   #7
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If I'm not consuming art in some way, shape, or form I slowly start to lose my mind
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Old 11-04-2014, 07:14 AM   #8
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If you reduce art to emotional manipulation then of course it will serve no other purpose than that. From a reductionist standpoint stuff like ethics and morality are just useless feely thingys as well.

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Old 11-04-2014, 07:15 AM   #9
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Emotions are all that matter.


that

also, people are Idiots TS. accusations like "melodramatic" or "pretentious" have almost become meaningless.. hell, 90% of pop acts still write their own stuff and most of that stuff is actually pretty damned good (made up percentage, but you get my point)
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Old 11-04-2014, 07:17 AM   #10
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It's impossible to know for sure if emotions are worth having. Nobody knows what it's like not to have emotions (or at least I don't), so what do you have to compare it against? I honestly think emotions are the most beautiful things in the world. They make life an adventure.

I think it's just different stokes for different folks regarding art though. There is definitely a certain catharsis to being caught up in a piece of art that moves you. Appreciating art gives them a place for those emotions to go after they have tortured you throughout the day, week, or month. People who don't get that feeling with certain pieces of art and try to validate their lack of response by calling art, 'pretentious' can go take their business elsewhere. I don't see what harm can be done by giving meaning to art.

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Old 11-04-2014, 07:21 AM   #11
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If you approach relationships and friendships without emotions and instead take a cause/effect analytical approach, I think that's what they call a sociopath.

Yeah emotions are important. Love is the best feeling I have ever experienced, but loss and sadness are also extremely important so that you have something to contrast a good feeling with a bad feeling.

I don't love music, games, art, sport etc. I love the emotions those things make me experience.
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Old 11-04-2014, 07:22 AM   #12
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All that matters is you can't spell 'fart' without 'art'.
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Old 11-04-2014, 07:30 AM   #13
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What's emotions?
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Old 11-04-2014, 07:33 AM   #14
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All that matters is you can't spell 'fart' without 'art'.

You also can't spell 'Art Garfunkel' without 'art'.
So yeah, that's basically what you said.
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Old 11-04-2014, 07:36 AM   #15
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You also can't spell 'Art Garfunkel' without 'art'.
So yeah, that's basically what you said.

Your point, caller?
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Old 11-04-2014, 07:37 AM   #16
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Old 11-04-2014, 07:38 AM   #17
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Old 11-04-2014, 07:50 AM   #18
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It's impossible to know for sure if emotions are worth having. Nobody knows what it's like not to have emotions (or at least I don't)


I know. it's horrible!!
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Old 11-04-2014, 08:08 AM   #19
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Old 11-04-2014, 09:00 AM   #20
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