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Old 05-14-2007, 09:53 PM   #1
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1 b2 3 #4 5 6 b7?

Does anyone know for sure what scale "1 b2 3 #4 5 6 b7" is?

I was fiddling around, and thought it sounded cool. To me, it sounds like a combination of mixolydian and double harmonic major; it obviously isn't, but it sounds that way to me.

So, would this be Mixolydian b2 #4? Are there any other names for it?
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Old 05-14-2007, 09:58 PM   #2
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Lydian flat-seven? Isn't that a real scale, though?
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Old 05-14-2007, 10:03 PM   #3
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Lydian flat-seven? Isn't that a real scale, though?

Hmm. It could be Lydian Dominant b2? According to what I've searched for it could be called that...
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Old 05-14-2007, 10:09 PM   #4
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Bah, I didn't notice the b2. H/W Diminished with no major third? Your name for it sounds more correct, though. It does sound neat.
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Old 05-14-2007, 10:14 PM   #5
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It would be a b5 and than a 5, instead of a #4 and a 5, correct?
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Old 05-14-2007, 10:15 PM   #6
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Errr...a sharp and a flat in the same scale? Wtf?

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It would be a b5 and than a 5, instead of a #4 and a 5, correct?


Yea, this would make sense.
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Old 05-14-2007, 10:20 PM   #7
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It would be a b5 and than a 5, instead of a #4 and a 5, correct?

No, I have an augmented fourth in it, like Lydian.
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Old 05-14-2007, 10:21 PM   #8
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I think #4 makes more sense. I mean, who needs a diatonic scale wtf?
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Old 05-14-2007, 10:55 PM   #9
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No, I have an augmented fourth in it, like Lydian.

Augmented 4th (#4) and diminished 5th (b5) are the same note, otherwise known as the tritone I believe.
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Old 05-14-2007, 10:57 PM   #10
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Augmented 4th (#4) and diminished 5th (b5) are the same note, otherwise known as the tritone I believe.

Yeah, but I'm using it as the fourth degree in this case.
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Old 05-14-2007, 11:11 PM   #11
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Dorian #4. The fourth mode of the Harmonic minor scale.
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Old 05-14-2007, 11:19 PM   #12
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^No Dorian is b3, not b2. It's like Phrygian without the b3 or something.
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^No Dorian is b3, not b2. It's like Phrygian without the b3 or something.


Whoopsie. didnt see that. I thought it was: 1 2 b3 #4 5 6 b7

Edit: It could be the HW scale without the augmented 2.
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Old 05-15-2007, 01:41 AM   #14
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It would be a b5 and than a 5, instead of a #4 and a 5, correct?

no,why?? you can't repeat an interval... 1-2b-3-5b-5-6-7b
where did the four go??

1-2b-3-4-5b-5-6-7b wouldn't be right either
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no,why?? you can't repeat an interval... 1-2b-3-5b-5-6-7b
where did the four go??

1-2b-3-4-5b-5-6-7b wouldn't be right either

Apparently you can repeat an interval, even in 7-note scales, like the altered scale. I don't know why specifically, but I'm researching it anyway.

The more I think about it, I'm starting to think it's simply Lydian Dominant with a b2...
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Old 05-15-2007, 02:25 AM   #16
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The Dayn Scale.

It obviously has no common name, so call it whatever you want as long as you know what it sounds like and how to use it - that's all that matters. A rose by any other name...
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The Dayn Scale.

It obviously has no common name, so call it whatever you want as long as you know what it sounds like and how to use it - that's all that matters. A rose by any other name...

Not if you call 'em crapweeds. I guess Lydian Dominant b2 it is.
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Apparently you can repeat an interval, even in 7-note scales, like the altered scale. I don't know why specifically, but I'm researching it anyway.

uuuh,no
you can repeat notes,but not intervals...you either add or subtract on to it,you could make an 8 tone scale with one of the examples i posted above
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Old 05-15-2007, 02:41 AM   #19
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uuuh,no
you can repeat notes,but not intervals...you either add or subtract on to it,you could make an 8 tone scale with one of the examples i posted above

Here we go, a thread I posted in about a mode question regarding the altered scale. Only seven notes, but I'm starting to make sense of it all.

I really need that jazz theory book, whenever they can actually order it in...
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uuuh,no
you can repeat notes,but not intervals...you either add or subtract on to it,you could make an 8 tone scale with one of the examples i posted above

I'm not quite understanding you, surely if you are repeating the same notes you are repeating the same interval?
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