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Old 01-03-2013, 09:29 PM   #9541
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dont force the turn and let the guitar settle in tune.


what do you mean
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Old 01-03-2013, 09:52 PM   #9542
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then if you want, you can turn another 1/4 turn.
but again, dont force the turn and let the guitar settle in tune.

measure again after.

if it helped, then that's a good relief for your guitar.


okay so i turned 1/4 and now the buzz is really quiet even if i strum hard, like i have to put my ear to the string to hear it. and it will lightly buzz 1 out of 5 times of strumming itll be louder the more i go down the fretboard

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Old 01-03-2013, 10:19 PM   #9543
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okay so i turned 1/4 and now the buzz is really quiet even if i strum hard, like i have to put my ear to the string to hear it. and it will lightly buzz 1 out of 5 times of strumming itll be louder the more i go down the fretboard



ok well, buzz that transmits thru the amp is an issue, not buzz you hear when you put your ear to the guitar.

also, raise the strings a little at the bridge, if you feel you're still getting buzz.

that's about it.
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Old 01-03-2013, 10:22 PM   #9544
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ok well, buzz that transmits thru the amp is an issue, not buzz you hear when you put your ear to the guitar.

also, raise the strings a little at the bridge, if you feel you're still getting buzz.

that's about it.


alright thank you a lot for all the help
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Old 01-03-2013, 10:23 PM   #9545
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ok vince, rock on
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Old 01-04-2013, 03:27 AM   #9546
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When I tune the g string it always tends to make a 'click' sound and it goes a little sharp. Then when I try to readjust it, it will immediately fall flat again. Very annoying and only happens with this string[img]**********************/www/images/lidire.gif[/img].
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Old 01-04-2013, 10:05 AM   #9547
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When I tune the g string it always tends to make a 'click' sound and it goes a little sharp. Then when I try to readjust it, it will immediately fall flat again. Very annoying and only happens with this string[img]**********************/www/images/lidire.gif[/img].



hey, well your g peg is slipping.

of any string, you;ll find, that on an electric guitar, the g will detune the most.

that is because the g string is meant to be wound.
and not thin like the high e and B.

because it's thin (electric players usually prefer thinner strings for bending) the string falls out of tune the most.

how to fix this?
well yes, there's a chance that the tuner is faulty.

but we still might be able to get the guitar to tune properly, if the strings are wound correctly (2-3 winds with a locking crossover) on the tuner.

if the string is fresh and if al the places where the string contacts the guitar are kept oiled or lubed.
(shave a pencil and using a needle, press the graphite from the pencil to lube the nut cut under that string.)


sometimes i suggest the player try wound g strings.
but i dont know if that will help in your case.
it might just be a waste of money.
the tuner might just need to be replaced.

it's not expensive and if you find tuners that fit the predrilled headstock holes, it's a simple swap.
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Is it alright for that to be sloped like that or should it really be straight? It's been that way for as long as I can remember but after seeing some pictures I noticed every picture had that as being straight instead of sloped.
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Old 01-04-2013, 03:03 PM   #9549
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i just know what you already know, those are too light.
guys use 12's, 13's.
to a point it's preference.
but i dont know about your specific gauge on your guitar.

you can make a thread, see if anyone else found a good gauge for B, let them know you have an epi too.


Thanks. I have gone ahead and done some research, ordered D'Addarios strings for Baritone. They are 13-62 and specialized for a different guitar type but read they should be quite good for normal guitars as well. However while waiting, I got real sick of the thin sound from standard strings and couldn't wait so went ahead to the local store, had a chat, they gave me some GHS 13-56. Wow just wow can't believe I have taken this long to re string, can actually play chords on the higher strings now and PM sounds amazing everywhere. I would say my new E (B) could be even thicker but it's great regardless.

Coincidentally from reading above, I have also had this G string problem on both of my guitars. It has always been a mess and usually falls out of tune when I finally get it spot on. In fact, since it's always off pitch I've developed a small habit of bending slightly when using it. The one on this set is wound. Tuned right up without having to adjust back and forth for probably the first time ever and stays in place when I stretch it.
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Old 01-04-2013, 04:21 PM   #9550
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Is it alright for that to be sloped like that or should it really be straight? It's been that way for as long as I can remember but after seeing some pictures I noticed every picture had that as being straight instead of sloped.


I'm concerned that in that pic it almost looks like
both the bridge and tail are pulling out of the body.
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I'm concerned that in that pic it almost looks like
both the bridge and tail are pulling out of the body.




Here's another angle. Any idea how to fix it if it is a problem?
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the stop tail is pulling out of the body.

the guitar will need to be detuned.
the metal piece pulling up and out of the body needs to
be put back in, in a strong enough way so that it can
support the string tension.

and then the guitar will need to be set up properly.


Ferrules: is what is pulling out of the hole.
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Thanks. I have gone ahead and done some research, ordered D'Addarios strings for Baritone. They are 13-62 and specialized for a different guitar type but read they should be quite good for normal guitars as well. However while waiting, I got real sick of the thin sound from standard strings and couldn't wait so went ahead to the local store, had a chat, they gave me some GHS 13-56. Wow just wow can't believe I have taken this long to re string, can actually play chords on the higher strings now and PM sounds amazing everywhere. I would say my new E (B) could be even thicker but it's great regardless.

Coincidentally from reading above, I have also had this G string problem on both of my guitars. It has always been a mess and usually falls out of tune when I finally get it spot on. In fact, since it's always off pitch I've developed a small habit of bending slightly when using it. The one on this set is wound. Tuned right up without having to adjust back and forth for probably the first time ever and stays in place when I stretch it.
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Old 01-05-2013, 03:27 PM   #9554
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the stop tail is pulling out of the body.

the guitar will need to be detuned.
the metal piece pulling up and out of the body needs to
be put back in, in a strong enough way so that it can
support the string tension.

and then the guitar will need to be set up properly.


Ferrules: is what is pulling out of the hole.


Should the stop tail be level or should it have a slight slope to it?
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it should be completely level just like in any pics you would google.

yours is pulling out of the guitar.
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it should be completely level just like in any pics you would google.

yours is pulling out of the guitar.


Got the bridge level and as close to the body as it can be so it should not move, so now am I going to have to adjust the bridge or should it be fine?
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the stop tail needs to be reinforced after you
detune the tension off the strings.

then the bridge won't have to be so high
but you won't know what height to place the bridge
until you fix the stop tail correctly and retune to guitar
then set intonation.
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the stop tail needs to be reinforced after you
detune the tension off the strings.

then the bridge won't have to be so high
but you won't know what height to place the bridge
until you fix the stop tail correctly and retune to guitar
then set intonation.



So how do you reinforce the stop tail? It feels sturdy and shouldn't move. Tried a Google search but all I'm finding is about acoustic guitars and that is only about gluing their bridge down.

In case this affects anything, at the moment their are no strings on as I was changing strings.

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well. it would really depend on the guitar.

if the hole has worn. it might need glue and or
wood to strengthen the stop tail.

you do not want the tail to rip out
once string tension is added.

I suggest you post in the gear custom
section. take good pics and ask for
suggestions.
I'm sure if it was already pulling out,
that it will need to be reinforced and not just
placed back in the hole.
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well. it would really depend on the guitar.

if the hole has worn. it might need glue and or
wood to strengthen the stop tail.

you do not want the tail to rip out
once string tension is added.

I suggest you post in the gear custom
section. take good pics and ask for
suggestions.
I'm sure if it was already pulling out,
that it will need to be reinforced and not just
placed back in the hole.


Well the hole looks fine, doesn't look worn at all. Is it not possible that it was put in a bit wrong instead of all the way into the hole as everything looks good, it had been that way for as long as I can remember, only reason I really took notice and checked if it was alright was because I was looking at adjusting the action to play slide a bit easier.

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