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Old 01-12-2013, 04:06 PM   #9561
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Okay I guess I'll change the strings. On my Loomis I did a couple of truss rod adjusts counter clockwise but when I measure theres still not even a picks width of space and my b string which is a .059 gauge buzzes like crazy when played open.

I'm scared to do another truss rod adjust because it was starting to feel harder to turn when I did it. (I know I did it the right way, dont worry only did it 1/4 turn at a time) I even raised the action quite a bit but none of this seems to be enough. I've owned the guitar for over 4 years now without a single setup so thats probably why.
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Old 01-12-2013, 05:11 PM   #9562
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that happens from time to time, when I come across a guitar
that needs more relief but is near the end of the truss
rods limit.
in those cases, I usually suggest going up
one string gauge if you feel comfortable with the
change.

it'll get you the extra releif you need naturally.
just be sure to change one string at a time if you do.

also it might not be near the limit.
it might just feel that way, but there's
no way for me to tell from here.
you have to go wt your gut and maybe
take it in if you'd rather have a tech check it out.
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Old 01-12-2013, 11:24 PM   #9563
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I have a jackson RR5 which I love, but the action is a tad bit too high...'
So when I do lower it, It frets out on bends at like the 19th-22nd fret.. how do I re adjust the neck? which way do I turn the truss rod and how many turns a day or whatever?
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Old 01-13-2013, 10:31 AM   #9564
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measure the neck's relief.

how to do that is in the first post of this thread.

when you have the first and the last fret (where the neck and body meet) held, then what fits in the middle gap?

if the string lays on the middle frets when both places are held, then you need to add relief.
so post back and i'll explain.
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Old 01-14-2013, 04:37 PM   #9565
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So I just did another 1/4 turn on my loomis and it didnt seem as hard as before, but i still got no results.

I'm wondering if i should try a humidifier since this is the first time I've done an adjustment on this guitar after owning it for so long and I live in upstate new york where it gets very cold in the winter?
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Old 01-14-2013, 07:00 PM   #9566
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humidifiers usually effect acoustics more than anything.

if the strings are getting old, then a new set might help. especially if you were considering going a wee bit thicker.
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Old 01-14-2013, 09:23 PM   #9567
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measure the neck's relief.

how to do that is in the first post of this thread.

when you have the first and the last fret (where the neck and body meet) held, then what fits in the middle gap?

if the string lays on the middle frets when both places are held, then you need to add relief.
so post back and i'll explain.


I've done that, The string does not touch the middle?
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Old 01-16-2013, 06:32 PM   #9568
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humidifiers usually effect acoustics more than anything.

if the strings are getting old, then a new set might help. especially if you were considering going a wee bit thicker.


I put new strings on it, 10-59s, and I feel like with that gauge on a 26.5" scale I should be fine. However, there is still no relief. I have no proper way of measuring but it seems like my neck might even have a slight backbow.

Guess I should take it to a guitar tech?
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Old 01-16-2013, 09:09 PM   #9569
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I put new strings on it, 10-59s, and I feel like with that gauge on a 26.5" scale I should be fine. However, there is still no relief. I have no proper way of measuring but it seems like my neck might even have a slight backbow.

Guess I should take it to a guitar tech?



yes, especially if you're sure that you're turning correctly,
in a Counter Clockwise direction.
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Old 01-16-2013, 09:10 PM   #9570
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I've done that, The string does not touch the middle?



if it does not, then what fits in the middle frets when held?

a thin pick, 2 picks?
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Old 01-17-2013, 07:38 PM   #9571
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Hello. I'm having some trouble with my Carvin DC727 going out of tune. The guitar is a string-thru and has Sperzel locking tuners. I have it tuned in A-Standard with EB 7-string Power Slinkies. What happens is the F-string (3rd string) and sometimes the A- and D-strings (2nd and 1st) will go out after bending. The lock screws on the tuners are locked about as far as they'll go. The strings have been on there long enough to have broken in. Is there anything I can try to get some tuning stability?
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Old 01-17-2013, 09:03 PM   #9572
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honestly, they should be keep their tune.

not sure, maybe there's an issue with the tuner or how you're using them?

try lubricating all string contact points.

at the nut cute, at the saddles, ect.
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Old 01-18-2013, 04:59 PM   #9573
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I always use some pencil lead on the saddles when I restring, but I've never tried it on the nut. I'll give that a shot when I restring it.

It's a fairly new guitar, about 2 years old now. Maybe the tuners are defective

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Old 01-19-2013, 07:36 PM   #9574
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ok let me know.
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Old 01-20-2013, 05:02 AM   #9575
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Hey guys, lots of good info in here, just got done reading the first page but I still have a few questions.

First of all, I blocked my strat a couple months ago and also switched to heavier strings, things were great til I got back into my hendrix phase. This is were my problems started, I had my guitar tuned to Eb standard and noticed Some of my bends would die at certain points and on certain frets. Not thinking much of it I jammed in Eb for a couple days before deciding I wanted to leave my strat in D standard from now on. after about a day the A string (technically G cause of D standard but bare with me lol) buzzes when you play an open note, also more notes are dying, buzzing, and dying on bends, clearly I need to do 1 or 2 things:

1. Raise string height

2. Adjust truss rod

Ive never been good at setting up a guitar, but I know the basics. My question is which way do I turn the truss rod? I went down a whole step in tuning does this mean i need to make it have more tension on the neck or less? Do I turn clockwise or counter clockwise?

Same with the string adjustments, do I take the strings that are buzzing and raise them? again, to raise do i need to turn clockwise or counter clock wise?

I don't mind playing with higher action, can I raise all the strings if preferred? this will cause the truss rod to need adjustments again correct?

Sorry to barrage every one with questions I just want to set my strat up and have it stay that way as long as possible
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Old 01-20-2013, 10:17 AM   #9576
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ok first measure the neck's relief.

fret the Lowest string at the first fret, at the same time,
fret the Lowest string at the last fret, where the neck and body meet. ~19th.

with both places held, look at the middle frets, ~7-9th.

where does the string sit...

does it lay on the middle frets there?
can you fit a thin pick under the string there?
can you fit more?

measure and post back.
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Old 01-20-2013, 11:15 AM   #9577
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Ok, using the steps you gave me, the height of the string at the 8th fret was about the thickness of a credit card, while the height at the 7th and 9th fret were just a little bit thinner than a credit card.

thanks for helping! looking forward to the rest of the steps
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Ok, using the steps you gave me, the height of the string at the 8th fret was about the thickness of a credit card, while the height at the 7th and 9th fret were just a little bit thinner than a credit card.

thanks for helping! looking forward to the rest of the steps



sounds like you have a lot of gap already.

sometimes with alternate tunings and thicker gauges you need to extra room for buzz free playing.

you can try raising action at the bridge.
tiny allen wrench to lower the two pegs on each saddle,
to raise the saddle higher.

this might help if the buzz isnt at the first few frets.

sometimes thicker strings cut into the nut. the deeper
slots cause open string buzzing.

if raising the action doesnt help, you can try slipping a bit of paper under the string, in the cut of the nut to lift it.
see if that helps.
if it does, then post back for a more permanent solution.
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Old 01-21-2013, 01:17 AM   #9579
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I raised the string heights and now I can bend fluently on every string and get clean notes on each fret, now the only problem is there is a slight buzz on the open A string (or G as I am in D standard...) but it is hardly noticeable, especially while plugged in. In terms of play-ability it feels and plays exactly how I want, and the process of raising the strings really gave a lot of insight on how the instrument functions mechanically, thanks for the help that was much, much, much easier than I thought it would be.

Is there anything I can do about the minor buzzing of the open string? Is it because I am playing in D standard or is it another problem? Regardless I can live with it for now; again, thanks for the help!
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with the open string, you can just try lifting it a little by placing a bit of paper under the string in the cut of the nut.
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