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Old 02-26-2013, 06:23 PM   #62461
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i agree with paddy. it's ridiculous.

plus, at a slight tangent, the whole, "wow, you're awful, do you expect to jump ahead of people who don't have a degree?"

Yes, absolutely. That's why i got the frigging degree you numpty (not to mention paid a shitload for it).

it's nice how we're in the worst of both worlds scenario (which no-one could've predicted... oh wait, yes they did, and that's before it was even apparent there'd be a massive recession which is only exacerbating the problem) where degrees aren't worth what they used to be, plus you're also massively in debt because of them.

I also love how chris grayling accused that student the other day/week who won her case against workfare of "wanting something for nothing" (that might be paraphrased).

yep this is the same guy who got his university education paid for (and probably got a grant, too), and I'm guessing said student paid for hers. it'd make you laugh if it weren't so serious.
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Old 03-06-2013, 07:34 AM   #62462
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Old 03-14-2013, 02:22 PM   #62463
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Someone plz equate the parties of England with the parties of America or just summarize them without doing so.
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Old 03-14-2013, 02:25 PM   #62464
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Someone plz equate the parties of England with the parties of America or just summarize them without doing so.

tories are republicans, BNP are republicans, everyone else is democrats or green party
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Old 03-14-2013, 02:27 PM   #62465
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And are they divided on stuff like abortion and gay marriage by party lines too?
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Old 03-14-2013, 02:28 PM   #62466
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And are they divided on stuff like abortion and gay marriage by party lines too?

I think that type of stuff is less important to voters there, but I'm pretty sure the BNP hates everything
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Old 03-14-2013, 02:40 PM   #62467
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Old 03-14-2013, 02:41 PM   #62468
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Someone plz equate the parties of England with the parties of America or just summarize them without doing so.


We have three 'main' parties - Labour, Conservative and Liberal Democrat. Labour party was formed in the early 20th century as the political arm of the trade union movement and still has ties although in the past decade or so they've been trying to break away from their 'red'/'old left' image. Conservative party are the guys who are big on family values and hunting foxes and stuff. Liberal democrats are, well, liberal democrats, I suppose.
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Old 03-14-2013, 02:42 PM   #62469
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We have three 'main' parties - Labour, Conservative and Liberal Democrat. Labour party was formed in the early 20th century as the political arm of the trade union movement and still has ties although in the past decade or so they've been trying to break away from their 'red'/'old left' image. Conservative party are the guys who are big on family values and hunting foxes and stuff. Liberal democrats are, well, liberal democrats, I suppose.

but which one is your favorite?
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Old 03-14-2013, 02:53 PM   #62470
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but which one is your favorite?


I've actually read books on the history of the Labour party whereas I've never done the same for the Conservatives or Liberals. You should know me well enough by now to know that asking me about my favourite political party is like asking me about my favourite way to have my lungs torn out through my throat
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Old 03-14-2013, 04:14 PM   #62471
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I've actually read books on the history of the Labour party whereas I've never done the same for the Conservatives or Liberals. You should know me well enough by now to know that asking me about my favourite political party is like asking me about my favourite way to have my lungs torn out through my throat

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Old 03-16-2013, 05:24 PM   #62472
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And are they divided on stuff like abortion and gay marriage by party lines too?


Only hardline Conservatives bother to complain about those things.

The main difference between the two big parties is that the Conservatives hate the poor and do everything they can to make them suffer while making their billionaire mates richer. They are Republicans but without the religious puritanical side.
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Old 03-16-2013, 05:27 PM   #62473
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Only hardline Conservatives bother to complain about those things.

The main difference between the two big parties is that the Conservatives hate the poor and do everything they can to make them suffer while making their billionaire mates richer. They are Republicans but without the religious puritanical side.


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I think Labour are shitheads too if it helps.
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Old 03-16-2013, 05:35 PM   #62475
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It'd take care of the balanced part at least
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Old 03-16-2013, 05:42 PM   #62476
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I accidentally joined the Labour Party a year or so back because it cost a penny.

Never again. I'm forever getting mail from them about fundraising tombolas etc.

Choosing a political party based on how cheap their membership is was a bad idea.
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Old 03-16-2013, 05:44 PM   #62477
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You have to.... pay to join a political party in the UK?
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Old 03-16-2013, 05:44 PM   #62478
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I accidentally joined the Labour Party a year or so back because it cost a penny.

Never again. I'm forever getting mail from them about fundraising tombolas etc.

Choosing a political party based on how cheap their membership is was a bad idea.


I have the same problem with teaching unions. They send me unending rivers of spam mail, and also occasionally hide it in plain envelopes so I think I'm getting a proper letter then find out it's some updates on Gove's pension reforms or something equally snoreworthy.


Also Dready do you remember the British expenses scandal? It's also pretty fair to call them shitheads considering most of them stole loads of taxpayer money and some are in jail for the amounts they stole.

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How else are they going to keep the ruffians out of the Tory party?
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Old 03-16-2013, 05:46 PM   #62479
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You have to.... pay to join a political party in the UK?

Only yearly membership dues. I would have thought it was the same in the US?
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Only yearly membership dues. I would have thought it was the same in the US?


Are those tax deductible in the same way union fees are?
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