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Old 02-06-2013, 09:55 PM   #63041
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Old 02-06-2013, 10:11 PM   #63042
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The entertainment value of this thread always goes through the roof when a fascist arrives.

Conclusion: Killing Jews is funny.
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Old 02-06-2013, 10:15 PM   #63043
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The entertainment value of this thread always goes through the roof when a fascist arrives.

Conclusion: Killing Jews is funny.

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Old 02-06-2013, 10:16 PM   #63044
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Old 02-07-2013, 03:05 AM   #63045
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Really? Because I need a break. I'd go for a walk with some friends. I'd hate to have been cooped up in there all day, a little bit of freedom makes everything easier.
Besides, I never ran away to deal drugs, and as far as I noticed not returning after lunch was not common at all in my school. Maybe there'd be one or two kids who would do it on occasion, but that was the same kid that would only come in when he felt like it (rarely) and wouldn't do the work anyway (and if that kid wanted out, he'd get out regardless) - keeping hundreds of kids locked up to put an easily traversable obstacle in place for the few that would leave seems silly.


We only give kids 40 mins for lunch. None of them would be back on time and traipsing in late would significantly disrupt the lesson after lunch. Also sorry but you clearly have no idea what a tough school is like. All the staff car tyres would be slashed if we didn't have the head on lunch duty patrolling the school.

Also tough schools generally have attendance problems. I'd say about 15% of the school population take regular unauthorised absences and I know of many whose parents have had fines for their truancy. Going home at lunch is just another excuse not to return for those kids.
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Old 02-07-2013, 07:13 AM   #63046
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Pfft, says the guy in the military.

Honestly, I wore uniforms through 12 years of Catholic school and never felt my individuality repressed. I also came out of it an atheist. Go figure.

I wore Uniforms in school, never felt repressed either. Individuality was easily expressed in other ways; I grew my hair long and joined a band. Our school gave us ample opportunity to express individuality in ways other than designer jeans.

Uniforms also have the notable advantage of reducing classroom distraction.

To be honest, I think most kids in my school preferred the Uniform arrangement. We used to have "non uniform days" every so often, which by senior years people would dread due to the added pressure wearing your own clothes placed on your mornings.
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Old 02-07-2013, 07:34 AM   #63047
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I didn't wear a uniform and I am a liberal. Go figure.

Uniforms obviously breed socialists.
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Old 02-07-2013, 08:38 AM   #63048
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I didn't wear a uniform and I am a liberal. Go figure.

Uniforms obviously breed socialists.

Im a liberal too and I didn't wear uniforms.
That's why I think schools need them
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Old 02-07-2013, 08:42 AM   #63049
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Im a liberal too and I didn't wear uniforms.
That's why I think schools need them

Dude, you are far from a liberal. Please stop posting you are. Your ideas fit more into the Conservatist part of the spectrum.

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Uniforms also have the notable advantage of reducing classroom distraction.

To be honest, I think most kids in my school preferred the Uniform arrangement. We used to have "non uniform days" every so often, which by senior years people would dread due to the added pressure wearing your own clothes placed on your mornings.

Reducing classroom distraction? So you think kids here are staring at eachothers clothes all the time?

And how does wearing your own clothes put any pressure on you if you are acustomed to it. It only puts pressure on your kids because it is a one time thing and they don't know how to deal with it.
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Old 02-07-2013, 08:49 AM   #63050
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After the first time watching kids get beat down for wearing the wrong football shirts I was fine with wearing uniforms.
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Old 02-07-2013, 09:10 AM   #63051
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Dude, you are far from a liberal. Please stop posting you are. Your ideas fit more into the Conservatist part of the spectrum.


Reducing classroom distraction? So you think kids here are staring at eachothers clothes all the time?

And how does wearing your own clothes put any pressure on you if you are acustomed to it. It only puts pressure on your kids because it is a one time thing and they don't know how to deal with it.

Okay, I'm not complete liberal, but i don't think I'm very conservative either.

And he means boys staring at girls' asses and tits.
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Old 02-07-2013, 09:26 AM   #63052
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And he means boys staring at girls' asses and tits.

Studies have shown that sexual excitement increases learning abilities in class as it makes the brain more receptive to information.
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Old 02-07-2013, 09:43 AM   #63053
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Studies have shown that sexual excitement increases learning abilities in class as it makes the brain more receptive to information.

Make the uniforms sexy

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Old 02-07-2013, 10:19 AM   #63054
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Eh, I wore a uniform for a few years in middle school. It was pretty lame.
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Old 02-07-2013, 11:10 AM   #63055
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I still want those uniforms in my school though...
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Old 02-07-2013, 03:05 PM   #63057
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I still want those uniforms in my school though...



Why, are you a paedophile?


At my school I give a lot of uniforms away for children whose parents can't afford clothes for them. If there was no uniform these children would be mercilessly bullied for wearing dirty, smelly clothes.


The kids also feel a social anxiety in what they choose to wear. Learning would be disrupted by sending inappropriately clothed children home all the time. It's also easier for members of the public to identify which school a child in the street is from, which can be helpful.
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Old 02-07-2013, 03:07 PM   #63058
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Why, are you a paedophile?


At my school I give a lot of uniforms away for children whose parents can't afford clothes for them. If there was no uniform these children would be mercilessly bullied for wearing dirty, smelly clothes.


The kids also feel a social anxiety in what they choose to wear. Learning would be disrupted by sending inappropriately clothed children home all the time. It's also easier for members of the public to identify which school a child in the street is from, which can be helpful.

The hell are inappropriately clothed children? Do you think children go to school semi-nude here?
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Old 02-07-2013, 03:07 PM   #63059
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Why, are you a paedophile?


At my school I give a lot of uniforms away for children whose parents can't afford clothes for them. If there was no uniform these children would be mercilessly bullied for wearing dirty, smelly clothes.


The kids also feel a social anxiety in what they choose to wear. Learning would be disrupted by sending inappropriately clothed children home all the time. It's also easier for members of the public to identify which school a child in the street is from, which can be helpful.

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Old 02-07-2013, 03:15 PM   #63060
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Why, are you a paedophile?


At my school I give a lot of uniforms away for children whose parents can't afford clothes for them. If there was no uniform these children would be mercilessly bullied for wearing dirty, smelly clothes.


The kids also feel a social anxiety in what they choose to wear. Learning would be disrupted by sending inappropriately clothed children home all the time. It's also easier for members of the public to identify which school a child in the street is from, which can be helpful.

I was doing some work in a disadvantaged school there for a while, and the first point there is a huge issue, even with younger children and even where there are uniforms. In order to counteract it the school itself was providing clean uniforms for those kids.

I remember when I was in primary school children used to be teased for not having cool enough runners; it of course had the effect of making already vulnerable children even more withdrawn.


I would also hate as a teacher to have to enforce a less strict dress code. Uniforms are easy, the worst you'll ever have to deal with is a skirt riding too high. Short Skirts, low cut tops, those weird tights that girls are wearing now with garter belt thingees sown in them, and other stuff that obviously can't be allowed presents a particular issue for young male teachers who need to be careful to avoid anything that could be seen as inappropriate, particularly with older female students where this is likely to occur.
Even with our uniform standards, girls used to play the game of "in noticing that my uniform is inappropriately short, you have had to look at my legs, which I will now construe to be inappropriate in and of itself".




None of these are massive issues of course, but Uniforms get around a number of minor (and one or two not so minor) issues without any real disadvantage to them; other than vague statements that they inhibit individuality as if it could only be expressed in dress.
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