DeadIdentity81

i dont know **** haha followed this sport for over 10 yrs and i think i know my share of what im talking about.. Fedor and even Dana White has said money is the main reason and look what its doin to Randy.

Fedor would be stupid to come over here just to fight one person. Thats another issue because hes not goin to fight the who's who of MMA hes already done that.

Its always about the money in the end in everything.

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BigFatSandwich

****. what is it with MMA fans and the word "nuthugging"? ****'s annoying. stop it.

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STOJDub

Anyone know who won that Jardein(SP?)VS Lidell fight?I can't seem to find out of even find the video.

I'm a big Ken Shamrock fan,even though he got old and put into retirement.

DeadIdentity81

Jardine won he dominated that fight.. Its all over youtube or google it

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STOJDub

Damn,I checked allover you tube and even tried google and couldnt find it befor.I just watched a Jardine fight last night where this black dude with a **** load of back tats beat Jardine down 48 seconds into the fight.I love quick knockouts.

sinisa

Before PPV and boxing being owned by the Corporation it was a very shady sport. Mafia/gangster links were everywhere. Everywhere. That was cleaned up in the 50's after Liston but what replaced it was the mafia-style tactics of the Corporation. Sure they're probably not as ruthless and don't sell crack, but they economically dominate and therefore exploit the sport. Except this is perfectly legal. Capitalism and free-market and all that.

The reason there are so many ridiculously priced, worthless PPV's is because some economist studying TV ratings found the perfect correlation between price and the amount of viewers that will watch, in order to maximise profit. Explanation: if you make it more expensive, fewer people will watch. At some point there is an optimum price that will gross the most profit. There are more variables (quality of fight, promotion etc.) but that's the gist of it.

It's a f*cking science. No, can that, it's called a Bachelor of Commerce. *shudders*.

My overall point is that if the commercialisation of the various MMA competitions continue, MMA will become what boxing is today compared to the boxing of mid-twentieth century. I, personally, don't want that.

What are you gonna do when Zuffa own all of UFC, WEC, Elite XC, IFL?

Why don't they go overseas to other promoters? Money, fame, differing rules, personal reasons. Let's take a quick look at the number of North American promotions: UFC, WEC, Elite XC, IFL, Strikeforce, King of the Cage, Rumble on the Rock, Icon Sport, TKO , EFC, MFC, Cage Fury FC, IFC, Combate Extremo, Gracie FC, FFC, Art of War (US), RioHeroes, Mixed Martial Arts World Fighting Championship. 19.

Now lets see Asian promotions: HERO'S, Pancrase, ZST, DEEP, Spirit MC, Cage Force, Art of War (China), Smackgirl. 8.

Europe: Cage Rage, Cage Warriors, Finnfight. 3.

Source was Wikipedia. If you're in a country with 19 competing promoters you will do your damndest to get the most money from your fights. If you're in Europe, well, there is always unlicenced boxing i guess.

I guess i just like the older days when money and trash talk weren't the first thing to think of when you thought of fighting. I'm just old fashioned

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i have to go with Chuck Liddell

haha he woops ass

especially him beating Tito 2 times and tito talkin **** after the first win

Sabu

Brock Lesnar gonna kill Frank Mir!

Neon Knight

when is that fight?

I have a brilliant idea, a UFC card comprising only of celebrity martial artists eg. Joe Rogan, Jason Statham, Maynard James Keegan etc

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Sabu

It's on UFC 81 which takes place on February 2.

im_hungry

Fedor vs Randy


Fedor wins via Randy being about 50 when they finally fight.

Shayne777

^ ur probaly right

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Child Of Maiden

Well it seems a lot of the match ups we wanted to see might not come to fruition because of the new DREAM organization. Just found out Cro Cop is dropping out of the UFC and is now fighting at the Saitama Super Arena on March 15th. A rematch between Emelianenko and Cro Cop is now looking more probable than a Fedor/Couture match up.

DREAM is pretty much PRIDE all over again. They even got the screaming Pride lady. Oh well, I was a bigger fan of Pride but there was a lot of potential match ups that we didn't get to see with Zuffa's acquisition of PRIDE. Wanderlei vs. Chuck was good though. But I would have liked to see Cro Cop vs. Arlovski.

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cro cop is done. he was bullied by chieck kongo when they fought, and looked like crap on the ground vs. gonzaga who has lost his last 2. And pride fighters for the most part have been getting crushed in the ufc. Anderson silva was out of pride for 2 years when he came over, wanderli has lost 3 strait, sokoju, oh and shogun the so called number light heavy wieght got destroyed by forest, etc. the only excepions i can think of are big nog, rampage, and the verdict is still out on henderson.

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i go to MMAshare.com for all my MMA video needs....instead of having to shell out the money to watch it on PPV.

As for fav's:

Anderson Silva (the guy's unstoppable!)
GSP
BJ Penn


As for my thoughts on PRIDE...those guys are getting annihilated. They were just in their comfort shell in Japan, and now with such a deep talent pool, they are seeing what it truly means to be a fighter.

DaveGilmour1189

despite the bad commercial descions of ppv and the like in boxing, i think the real reason its in "decline" is the lack of good fighters. The sport has become so overblow and stupid in the wake of guys like Mike Tyson. All the scandal and stupidy outside the ring took away from the sport. It was relatively okay in the 90's when you had Tyson bitting hollyfield in a fight or some big larger than life personalities that literally sustained the sport. But that very huge overblown thing couldn't sustain itself and without those huge personalities, there's nothing interesting. None of the big names fight more than once a year.
Add to the fact few people coming into fighting are going into boxing. More are drifting towards more "complex" styles. No offense to anyone who likes boxing, but its not as interesting as other sports. Its basically a difference of who can throw the hardest punches and take the most hits. MMA or other sports have more strategic aspects, guys who stay at long range and throw kicks and punches, Guys who grapple towards submission holds, guys how grapple to get into good punching positions. There's more ways to win the fight and its more interesting to watch. I applaud the dirrection they're going towards more regulation and making it a legitimate sport. The only irk i have with it is too many guys go to the floor in wrestling too quickly. I haven't seen a good roundhouse or tornato kick thrown in a fight in awhile. (i do taekwondo by the way so i might be biased in the regard)

BigFatSandwich

I disagree with everything you just said. Everything.

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its awesome!!

farcry

Anderson Silva and GSP are the best. Fedor is cool but he never fights anyone good. Silva and GSP are the best I've ever seen in their respective divisions. A fight between those two guys would be amazing.