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Old 08-08-2007, 12:14 PM   #1
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Bar Chord on 1st Fret

Hey, I'm trying to play New Slang, and am getting stuck on the F chord:
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I'm on an acoustic and it's proving really hard to bar the whole first fret seeing as its so tight. Any ideas? I mean, I know it's a chord shape I need to learn and be able to play all over the board but this particular fret is proving hard.
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Old 08-08-2007, 12:17 PM   #2
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Try it lower down barring at the 7th fret. Practice this for a while, then your finger will get stronger and you'll be able to bar at the first fret. Don't worry millions of people have this problem.
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Old 08-08-2007, 12:18 PM   #3
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When you bar your finger down, make it as close to the first fret as possibly, it's either that way.
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Old 08-08-2007, 12:19 PM   #4
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just keep trying it untill you can press hard enough, no shortcuts around it.
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Old 08-08-2007, 12:21 PM   #5
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well , its like cal uk says, it is just practice and strength building.

one thing maybe that could help, when i am barring off chords i am only applying full pressure the the four strings being used for the chord

so in the barred F - the main pressure that matters is the 6E as that is your root, then of course the E chord formation on the 5th,4th and 3rd strings, the 2nd and 1st strings are not really needed. concentrate on your form and it will come
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Old 08-08-2007, 12:25 PM   #6
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you could cheat and just play the open F chord.
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Old 08-08-2007, 12:26 PM   #7
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practice only holding down the first fret on all strings with your first finger, then go for the full F
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Old 08-08-2007, 01:12 PM   #8
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assuming your right-handed just turn your barring finger slightly to the left kinda like your fretting it with the side of your index
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Old 08-08-2007, 02:13 PM   #9
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how about problems with barring guys where besides strength, just some parts of your index dont seem to be pushing down/in a position to hold certain strings n the bar down. Or is that a strength related problem to? For me i thought it was like i didnt have a chunky enough parts along my index that could hols some of the strings down, particularly the middle strings(the end and first string of the bar seem the easiet to hold down).
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Old 08-08-2007, 04:03 PM   #10
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Try playing thumb over the top, then first finger on the second and first strings.

But ide recomend just practicing it more.
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Old 08-08-2007, 04:26 PM   #11
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After you learn how to play barre chords, you realize you don't really have to push down that hard. Your strength just builds up and you hardly have to press down anymore.
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Old 08-08-2007, 06:27 PM   #12
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Like someone else mentioned above, when I got to Barre Chords in my book, it gave me the really cool tip of rolling your index (barring) finger onto its side a bit. This makes barring the strings much easier, for me at least.
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Old 08-08-2007, 06:37 PM   #13
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Like someone else mentioned above, when I got to Barre Chords in my book, it gave me the really cool tip of rolling your index (barring) finger onto its side a bit. This makes barring the strings much easier, for me at least.


precisely what i was talking about
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Old 08-10-2007, 09:01 PM   #14
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Hey guys, thanks for all the tips. I automatically find myself moving closer to the fret bar and my finger does roll to the left and I get a clearer tone but I always find the 2nd string is muted because whatever I do that part of my finger is too soft to push the string down properly.

I'll keep at it though, and increase my strength. Thanks!
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Old 08-11-2007, 06:27 AM   #15
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Ahhh the pain of Barre chords.

That chord shape will eventually become second nature and a piece of piss to play all over the fretboard with enough practice.

Don't fret too much (no pun intended :p) we all mute a note every once in a while, just keep practicing all down the neck to build up your strength.
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Old 08-11-2007, 06:33 AM   #16
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do this

E-1
B-1
G-2
D-3
A-x
e-x

till you learn to bar
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