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Old 01-15-2015, 03:44 AM   #1
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What if a pop artist suddenly went awesome...

So here's the scenario:
Imagine a typical, shitty pop artist (e.g. Justin Bieber) and his record label suddenly going, 'You know what? We've earned enough money now, so let's **** up the world a bit.' And they record a really (and I mean really) good rock/metal album. He then only does new songs when performing live and completely changes his personality in interviews and stuff.

So, a bit like Dylan in 1965, but not being awesome before AND after, but only after, and it all would be happening nowadays.

What what the reactions by average radio listeners be? Would he still sell well because he's famous? How would rock/metal fans react (as said, the album is really good)? Would they now suddenly listen to his music? Or would he just generally be hated now?

PS: I'm not sure whether this is the right forum, but it didn't quite fit anywhere else...

EDIT: Also, if it worked out, how would other pop artists and record labels react?
EDIT2: This is rather a social experiment, the point is not that I want Bieber to turn metal, it's that I wonder how much of one's taste in music is really directly connected to the music itself and not other circumstances like popular taste or the artist's public appearance.

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Old 01-15-2015, 03:52 AM   #2
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You want a metal Bieber album?


What bothers me with this is that of the thousands of metal bands in the world, you'd rather one guy change what he does to suit your whims instead of going out and finding more bands. I think everyone got over the whole "Pop is so shit people should listen to my music" a few years ago.
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You want a metal Bieber album?

What bothers me with this is that of the thousands of metal bands in the world, you'd rather one guy change what he does to suit your whims instead of going out and finding more bands. I think everyone got over the whole "Pop is so shit people should listen to my music" a few years ago.


I don't think you got my point. It's not 'pop music is shit', it's 'how influenced by media/other circumstances is people's taste in music?'
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Like Radiohead? I mean their first Album sux arse!
how bout the beatles?
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Old 01-15-2015, 04:15 AM   #7
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how bout the beatles?

Actually a good and probably better known example than Dylan, but this also happened 50 years ago. Radiohead probably isn't counting, since they weren't that popular and established at that time.
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You want a metal Bieber album?


What bothers me with this is that of the thousands of metal bands in the world, you'd rather one guy change what he does to suit your whims instead of going out and finding more bands. I think everyone got over the whole "Pop is so shit people should listen to my music" a few years ago.


I just kinda assumed our generation grew up and realized all music sucks.
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What if an awesome artist suddenly went pop?

That would make quite a mess I think.
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What if an awesome artist suddenly went pop?

That would make quite a mess I think.

This actually happens more often than the other way round...
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Radiohead probably isn't counting, since they weren't that popular and established at that time.

What do you mean? Radiohead's first 3 albums were pretty standard alternative rock and they did get big and establish themselves with that sound. It wasn't until Kid A that they really got their sound. Before Kid A they were just another alternative band but on that album and forward they became the experimental electronic band they are now. That was a complete shift in style after already establishing themselves as something else.
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Old 01-15-2015, 05:01 AM   #13
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why would bieber ever stoop low enough to make a shitty metal album? the guy's too good for that.
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What do you mean? Radiohead's first 3 albums were pretty standard alternative rock and they did get big and establish themselves with that sound. It wasn't until Kid A that they really got their sound. Before Kid A they were just another alternative band but on that album and forward they became the experimental electronic band they are now. That was a complete shift in style after already establishing themselves as something else.


Whoa now OK Computer-era Radiohead can't and shouldn't be simplified as 'just another alternative band', even though Kid A was definitely more experimental
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Whoa now OK Computer-era Radiohead can't and shouldn't be simplified as 'just another alternative band', even though Kid A was definitely more experimental

Oh yeah, I forgot that they started to experiment a on OK Computer, but still, I think it stands that they definitely started out and got popular being way more bland than what they became.
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What if an awesome artist suddenly went pop?

That would make quite a mess I think.

This is a joke about exploding people and it is really funny.
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It'd be really cringey and even if he made the greatest metal album ever, people wouldn't like it because metalheads are weirdo elitists with overly high standards so they'd hate him for being an ex-popstar and call him a poser or something.
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So here's the scenario:
Imagine a typical, shitty pop artist (e.g. Justin Bieber) and his record label suddenly going, 'You know what? We've earned enough money now, so let's **** up the world a bit.' And they record a really (and I mean really) good rock/metal album. He then only does new songs when performing live and completely changes his personality in interviews and stuff.

So, a bit like Dylan in 1965, but not being awesome before AND after, but only after, and it all would be happening nowadays.

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If you want metal bieber you might aswell look at Bullet For My Valentine or Black Veil Brides. It's close enough
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