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Old 10-13-2012, 11:06 AM   #8961
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I dont know man. Life as a mathematician seems to be pretty boring to me. It is cool to know, but there is no feeling or creativity in it.


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Old 10-13-2012, 11:37 AM   #8962
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What was your answer?



0=ln(1)

Hence showing it is a even equation.


I hope

I am working through a sheet with a bunch of further maths on it, that I havent done, but some have. When we fet to the physics, others will be playing catch up.

but I get to get my main bit done in freshers!
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Old 10-13-2012, 11:42 AM   #8963
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0=ln(1)

Hence showing it is a even equation.


I hope

I am working through a sheet with a bunch of further maths on it, that I havent done, but some have. When we fet to the physics, others will be playing catch up.

but I get to get my main bit done in freshers!

Yeah, I thought we were looking for a certain t.

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Maybe not to you.

Indeed. I chose Earth Sciences and then Economics as it needs more imagination. Pretty fun to look at some rocks, deduce what kind of environment they were formed in and then what we can use them fore. More fun than to solve some system of equations for a day. There's enough maths in all subjects to keep one satisfied.
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Old 10-13-2012, 11:52 AM   #8964
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Another question!!!

If you could give me the name of a method I would be happy to do the reading myself, with the interwebs...

Find the factors of 42(x^2)+xy -30(y^2)
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Old 10-13-2012, 11:59 AM   #8965
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Another question!!!

If you could give me the name of a method I would be happy to do the reading myself, with the interwebs...

Find the factors of 42(x^2)+xy -30(y^2)


I don't know if there is a general method. It's just that you see that 6*-5=-30, 6*7=42
and 6*6+7*-5=1
So (6x-5y)(7x+6y) would give you such an answer.
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Old 10-13-2012, 12:02 PM   #8966
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I don't think there's a name for factoring multivariable expressions. Maybe it's "factoring multivariable expressions".

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Indeed. I chose Earth Sciences and then Economics as it needs more imagination. Pretty fun to look at some rocks, deduce what kind of environment they were formed in and then what we can use them fore. More fun than to solve some system of equations for a day. There's enough maths in all subjects to keep one satisfied.

Yep, rote memorization is known for its creative aspects. I'll just say that you don't know what you're talking about and leave it at that.
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Old 10-13-2012, 12:04 PM   #8967
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I don't think there's a name for factoring multivariable expressions. Maybe it's "factoring multivariable expressions".


Yep, rote memorization is known for its creative aspects. I'll just say that you don't know what you're talking about and leave it at that.

If you think Earth Sciences is Rote Memorization and Mathematics is not, you're an idiot. Earth Sciences in contrast to Mathematics is an empirical science. We're discovering new stuff every day.
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Old 10-13-2012, 12:13 PM   #8968
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I wasn't being serious when I said that, but...if you think there isn't research in mathematics, you're an idiot. If you think math is predominantly memorization, you're an idiot.

edit: I'm not trying to insult your fields at all. I think they are deep, varied, and interesting. Like math.

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Old 10-13-2012, 12:42 PM   #8969
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I wasn't being serious when I said that, but...if you think there isn't research in mathematics, you're an idiot. If you think math is predominantly memorization, you're an idiot.

edit: I'm not trying to insult your fields at all. I think they are deep, varied, and interesting. Like math.

But is that research still mathematics? Or is it applied mathematics?

The mathematicians that I know, ended up in other fields like physics, biology and economics. Usually at the best places lol.
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Old 10-13-2012, 12:52 PM   #8970
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I dont know man. Life as a mathematician seems to be pretty boring to me. It is cool to know, but there is no feeling or creativity in it.

maths is beautiful to me
like 42 and root3
perhaps one day you'll see
what maths means to me
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Applied math is math. If you mean if it's research in math that doesn't necessarily have a found application in other fields yet, yes. There is tons of it. Mathematicians kind of, you know, study math and discover new shit about it all the time.
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Old 10-13-2012, 01:02 PM   #8973
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Applied math is math. If you mean if it's research in math that doesn't necessarily have a found application in other fields yet, yes. There is tons of it. Mathematicians kind of, you know, study math and discover new shit about it all the time.

Yes, they study math and discover things. I have a different view of what research is.
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Old 10-13-2012, 01:09 PM   #8974
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Yes, they study math and discover things. I have a different view of what research is.

Uh...okay? Having an expanded definition of research doesn't negate the fact that math is a very active field.
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Old 10-13-2012, 01:11 PM   #8975
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Uh...okay? Having an expanded definition of research doesn't negate the fact that math is a very active field.

Math is a very active field. should be. Only the best students usually end up doing maths.



Unfortunately they are also the most boring ones >.>
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Old 10-13-2012, 01:29 PM   #8976
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Old 10-13-2012, 01:50 PM   #8977
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I dont know man. Life as a mathematician seems to be pretty boring to me. It is cool to know, but there is no feeling or creativity in it.


No feeling or creativity in math?

You serious?

Of all subjects, math is the one that has given me the most feels.
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Old 10-13-2012, 02:22 PM   #8978
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maths is beautiful to me
like 42 and root3
perhaps one day you'll see
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Don't forget about Euler's Identity.

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Old 10-13-2012, 03:46 PM   #8979
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I don't know if there is a general method. It's just that you see that 6*-5=-30, 6*7=42
and 6*6+7*-5=1
So (6x-5y)(7x+6y) would give you such an answer.



Ah bugger.

I had written out the factors then thought.... there has to be a better way of doing this.... Alas, I am a lazy mathematical worker; I like to have a map to results, design on the other hand, I enjoy getting lost in.
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Old 10-15-2012, 05:20 AM   #8980
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Guys I don't really understand how to transpose when it comes to logs and natural logs, case in point... I have to "transform" the following formula to linear form.

t = C / exp (D/T)

Full qu. t - time for specified drug to decompose, T- temp (in K), C and D constants. Transform this eq to linear form. Which quantities would you need to calculate from measured time (t) an temperature values to fit a line?
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